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Offline Frogm4n

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« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2004, 07:47:33 PM »
well its painfully obvious that porn offends you. Then dont watch it. Or does the fact that it is out there and you want to watch it but your beating yourself with a switch everytime you think about it yelling " NO NO BAD JESUS WILL CRY BAD BAD" make you want to pass a constitutional admendment to ban it?

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« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2004, 08:01:44 PM »
Ive concluded, for myself, that there is a definate relationship between the gradual decline of moral standards in our society and the freedom to exploit sex and violance for commercial wealth.  

I know its a first amendmant issue but it is damaging the society in obvious ways.  Violance for entertainment is a companion to sex for entertainment that continuoulsy lowers the standards in our society.  In my opinion...

Im not worried about myself.  Im in great control.  Im worried about the young people growing up in a society that continuoulsy lowers its moral standards.  And Im worried about all the women and children exploited by sex and violance for the corporate greed of a few to pleasure the growing mass amoral.

Damn...almost sounds liberal

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« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2004, 08:35:22 PM »
I have yet to see a reason why pornography be banned for anything more than a moral reason.  I wrote a short essay over the pornography debate for an English class a couple of semesters ago, still have it on my hard drive.  Pornography is something that has to be sought out, no one plays it on your TV when your trying to watch Nascar.  The only place I can think of that pornography is unwillingly shown to you, is your e-mail.  I think that spam e-mail is something that should be eliminated, so I can see the point there.  If pornography were to be banned, it would only create another money sink like the war on terrorism and drugs.

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« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2004, 09:04:05 PM »
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Ive concluded, for myself, that there is a definate relationship between the gradual decline of moral standards in our society and the freedom to exploit sex and violance for commercial wealth.  



i see you forgot about, or conveniently weren't around in the late 1800's early 1900's so you might've missed that particular bell curve.  probably missed all about the other periods and cultures in history that made no such moral judgements.

making it illegal would only exponentially increase the amount of exploitation, and introduce other dangers for all parties involved.

there was a beautiful bible quote i saw the other day to the effect of tend to your own house instead of looking for troubles in others'.
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« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2004, 09:35:19 PM »
they can't get rid of it, to many of u pervs out there . ..actions as this are just an attempt to control it, hammer down the spikes or do you feel it should have any controls at all?

no ones mentions the ties to organized crime, nice fellows there -  they do great things with their profits .. :rolleyes:

porno and drugs - what a great me, me world we live in .. sad sacks
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« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2004, 09:44:58 PM »
When is Ashcroft going to appoint a "violence czar"?  I would have thought that the mass production and consumption of violence in the entertainment industry is just as damaging to society as porn is.

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« Reply #51 on: February 20, 2004, 12:03:25 AM »
>I would have thought that the mass production and consumption of violence in the entertainment industry is just as damaging to society as porn is.
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Yup.

>i see you forgot about, or conveniently weren't around in the late 1800's early 1900's so you might've missed that particular bell curve.
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Yes, I conveniently was not around 200 years ago or I forgot, I cant remember :rolleyes:

Lets just focus on modern times, say the past 50 years, for clarity and ease of understanding.   Our society is as sick as it has ever been and getting sicker.  You disagree?

>making it illegal would only exponentially increase the amount of exploitation, and introduce other dangers for all parties involved.
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A good point but not neccessarily true.  I dont think anything can stop the decay.  Just make people think a little deeper about the penalties of unregulated freedom to do anything, anytime, anywhere......

there was a beautiful bible quote i saw the other day to the effect of tend to your own house instead of looking for troubles in others'.
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Glad your keeping up on biblical passages.

When my neighbor starts roaming the neighborhood peeping into windows, exposing himself to children on the street, breaking into homes raping single women, luring children into his house or car to take nude photos of them or molest them then I am pretty much involved whether I want to be or not.  No doubt people that behave in that manner are inspired at some point by perverted extreme pornography.

In my community there has been a rash of sexual perverts lately  visiting all manner of fear on women and children.  Doing what perverts do.  One man approaches women from behind and aggressively fondles their crotches and runs off.  Another man takes off his shoes, breaks into homes and sits near sleeping women until they awake.  Scaring the hell out of them before running out.  Still again, a man has been attempting to lure young children into his car locally, several different people are working this way all across the sound.  To think that pornography has no role in inspiring these sick people is wishful thinking.  To think that pornography is good and should be protected at the cost of all other rights is the status quo these days.  We are getting what we deserve.  

Keep an eye on the murderer of the young girl in Florida.  No one has yet said how she was killed except her father saying she died a "horrific death".  I would be surprised to find that her killer was not a consumer of pornographic filth.  Perverts love that stuff, feed off it.  Its the animal within who feeds on that crap.  Everyone has that animal inside them but most keep it contained with morality.  Most people are not inspired to lunatic criminal behavior by decent respectable soft porn, or even the sick filthy stuff, but people who are inclined towards violant sexual predatory behavior are no doubt being inspired in harmfull ways for all those nearby.

Go ahead and fight to protect that garbage, all in the name of freedom, right?  meanwhile keep an eye on your girlfriend, your wife, your kids...because today there is an army of perverts out there using freedom of filth to fuel themselves, to stalk your loved ones.

You deny it?
« Last Edit: February 20, 2004, 12:13:18 AM by Yeager »
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« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2004, 07:54:18 AM »
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>Keep an eye on the murderer of the young girl in Florida.  No one has yet said how she was killed except her father saying she died a "horrific death".  I would be surprised to find that her killer was not a consumer of pornographic filth.  Perverts love that stuff, feed off it.  Its the animal within who feeds on that crap.  Everyone has that animal inside them but most keep it contained with morality.  Most people are not inspired to lunatic criminal behavior by decent respectable soft porn, or even the sick filthy stuff, but people who are inclined towards violant sexual predatory behavior are no doubt being inspired in harmfull ways for all those nearby.


It's not the porn which abuses, it's the abuser.

Doesn't that sound familiar, but ah well, GOP and its fanbois, as opportunistic as they are hypocrit. As long as it fits your agenda right........

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« Reply #53 on: February 20, 2004, 08:05:41 AM »
some of you seem to REALLY like ur nudie mags/films - to the point ur life would be less without them ... LOL

takes a while for some, but someday you'll realize there's more to life than naked chicks...
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« Reply #54 on: February 20, 2004, 08:08:39 AM »
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takes a while for some, but someday you'll realize there's more to life than naked chicks...


If so unimportant, then why are you so bent on attacking these almost to the point of obsession? I think a psychiatrist would be able to formulate some interesesting diagnosis on that one...

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« Reply #55 on: February 20, 2004, 08:09:48 AM »
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but someday you'll realize there's more to life than naked chicks...


you know you can ask a doctor to prescribe you some viagra or levitran, right? these are pills that help people who can't "rise to the occasion."
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« Reply #56 on: February 20, 2004, 08:54:24 AM »
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You deny it?


Yeap. For the same reason I deny that guns cause violence.

Do you want to ban guns, too?

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« Reply #57 on: February 20, 2004, 09:08:45 AM »
christians trying to control somthing for everyones good weather they agree or not.

hmm  where have i heard that befor?

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« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2004, 09:12:31 AM »
comparing guns to pornography?  Liberal theory at work here.....There are laws that prevent the mentally ill, domestic violators and felons from owning guns.  Background checks and waiting periods. Regulated to the hilt.  Arms are protected by the 2nd amendmant DIRECTLY.  Porn filth is somehow protected as free speech in the mind of the liberal immoral.

Its a stretch to compare the two but you obviously want your filth, you got it.  Just beware your women and children, sex pervs feed freely off porn filth and hunt down for twisted pleasure those least able to defend themselves.

Enjoy yourself :D
« Last Edit: February 20, 2004, 09:20:50 AM by Yeager »
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« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2004, 09:13:35 AM »
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you know you can ask a doctor to prescribe you some viagra or levitran, right? these are pills that help people who can't "rise to the occasion."


no problem on the rise Shane, but thanks for your concern - just saying as most grow up, you grow out of the little head mindset or should, much more to life than skirt sniffin

thud - to some/many porno is a drug and a sickness. it is an organized crime industry which has grown to be accepted as normal and just another form of entertainment, run without restraints or limits, corrupting minds/lives/souls as it rolls along - that is why I speak out against it and for the AG's actions
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