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Offline Phantom4

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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2004, 05:33:31 PM »
I have been flying CT more of late and at first I didn't like the very limited plane sets (probably a carry over from MA).  I "forced" myself to fly plane I didn't "like" and began to pick many planes I had hardly flown at all.  At the start of every campaign, flying "new" airframes from both sides I pretty much got slaughtered.  BUT, as I spent more time in these planes I found ways to win and and come out on top regardless of the plane as i have changed sides often to balance numbers and just tryand become more experinced in new planes.  My initial opinion of the 202 was not a lot different then Storch's, but more flying, changing tactics, changing setups, adapting to the airframe, Now I feel the 202 has very good guns and I can get pretty  quick kills.  I changed convergence to 150 and get in close (which isn't hard in this setup) worked on picking my shots (cockpits, tail sections, one wing root). Now I find the guns more than adequate. I then spent time in the 109E that was harder but found ways to win in it.  Then over to the P40's, if I tried to just outturn 202's I got killed a lot, but by changing and adapting I found it just great.  Then the Hurri 1, at first I thought it was hopeless  but after several hours began to fine I could win consistently in it also.  I have learned more about changing tactics and fighting diferent models here in the CT over the few months than I learned in over 3 yrs flying in the MA.  Get a plane stay in it until you learn to get kills in it consistly and then move to the next, you develop a much better appreciation for all planes and may become a better virtual pilot because of it.

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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2004, 07:25:18 PM »
I agree 100% with what Phantom said. At the start of each set I am just awful, but as I adapt to each plane, learn its strengths and weaknesses by trial and error (lots) I get, if not good, at least competent in each one I fly. In addition, I think that learning process will make me better in the planes I already "liked" and was good at once I go back to them. So in that sense I look forward to setups with fewer choices,and less than "uber" planes in them.

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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2004, 01:08:41 AM »
NO BLUE PLANES!  :rolleyes:

You are forcing guys to fly one aircraft type for the sake of something "different." IMO the CT should cater to variety and the set-ups to make as many people happy as possible by offering a wide a plane-set as possible in the given scenario. Otherwise you drive people to the MA and cause new players to the CT not to come because they don't like the plane-set.

Sorry guys, this "less is more" approach just leaves me cold.
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2004, 07:08:09 AM »
face it jester, you know you will have fun.  the whole dynamic would change if the ij had to worry about the blue and the silver.  With just the silver a completely different strat can be used.


And heck, its only a week.

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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2004, 08:46:04 AM »
why do the Allies only have 1 fighter..(P-38L) i mean comon...its gonna get boring flyin  the same ole plane fight after fight...i'd just like to so maybe...some Blue planes !:confused:

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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2004, 08:47:21 AM »
er.."i'd just like to "see"

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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2004, 09:05:52 AM »
That mean your going to pay next weeks AH bill for me Erg because I am stuck flying just one type of plane?
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2004, 09:22:32 AM »
Sure! send me the bill (1600 pennsylvania avenue, washington DC).

By the way, there is a nik and ki61 as well.


AND beyond that, dont you tend to fly a single plane?  Be it the p47 or the f6f or whatever.

The CT is all about restriction.

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« Reply #38 on: February 27, 2004, 09:25:46 AM »
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The CT is all about restriction.


Hence the reason that everyone's panties are always in a wad.

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« Reply #39 on: February 27, 2004, 09:42:45 AM »
lol

i didnt say constriction

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« Reply #40 on: February 27, 2004, 10:39:31 AM »
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That mean your going to pay next weeks AH bill for me Erg because I am stuck flying just one type of plane?


I'm relatively new here, but I thought the whole idea of the CT was to force a limited selection of AC for a week to simulate a certain even/time period of the war? What is the point of creating a scenario where you have 20 plane choices on each side? What you end up with is the MA minus one theater, IE everything but Russian, or everything but Japanese, or everything but USN. That is more dull than 1-2 plane choices.

Even though I was the one asking for the P40 in Guadalcanal, IM (very)HO the fewer plane options the better no matter what time or theater the scenario is set in.

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« Reply #41 on: February 27, 2004, 11:20:39 AM »
Check your history book Grits - I am just about sure the NAVY was "somewhere" around during the re-taking of the Philippines.

Not though old "Dugout" Doug McAurthur would admitt it.  :D

Thought would be "kinda" historical having them there.
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« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2004, 11:42:01 AM »
Yeah but then it would have been like a billioin other setups we have done.  I can imagine that at some point in the war a squadron of p38s had to deal with ij all alone for a week without the blue guys coming to their rescue.  ;)

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« Reply #43 on: February 27, 2004, 11:46:31 AM »
Agreed Jester. Maybe we should have the CVE's of Taffy 3 which would add the FM2 and TBM? I dont think the big CV task groups played a huge role, but anybody remotely familiar with the PAC knows the story of Taffy 3 driving off the Yamato from hitting the otherwise defenceless beachhead at Lyete.

So FM2 and P38 I would like, but I would not want to see everything in the the USAAF/USN list added just because some folks like one plane or another and they were available at the time period of the set. I say that as a person who's favorite plane is the F4U-1, but for scenario purposes I'd rather not see it in the set.

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« Reply #44 on: February 27, 2004, 11:54:22 AM »
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Originally posted by Jester
Check your history book Grits - I am just about sure the NAVY was "somewhere" around during the re-taking of the Philippines.

Not though old "Dugout" Doug McAurthur would admitt it.  :D

Thought would be "kinda" historical having them there.


No questin!  But I thought the point was to feature the P-38?  

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