Author Topic: Bush's 9/11 Boasting Backfires (Read 2498 times)

Ripsnort · « **Reply #60 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:35:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
When i say 'they blew their load on 9/11' i mean that they had no other plans to strike against the US in the near future. They are not very foward thinking people, and i believe they had no idea they would even be able to pull off 9/11.

You did read the reports of the other planned attacks against the US that were on the hard drives that were confiscated in the caves, didn't you? Or are you simply ignoring that bit of history for your own politcal point?

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
FBI and CIA had plenty of warnings, but ignored them because they didnt think they could pull it off with the security measures in place. And if the security measures in place were actually enforced they they wouldnt have.

and had the administration put those securities effects into place PRE-9/11, how do you think the public would have reacted?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #61 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:39:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad

While they simply DEPLORE the nasty guys saying that, they can understand the frustration. But of course, WE'RE taking the "high road".

Jeebuz...... tell me you guys are a bit more sophisticated and aren't really falling for that.

I think by the posting this topic, it answered that question for you

Toad · « **Reply #62 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:41:35 PM »

Not to mention that the security measures put in place AFTER 9/11 are already being watered down as "too expensive".

America will not pay for, let alone accept, the types of security it measures that true security requires.

EL AL is the prime example. It has pretty effective security. However, their measures are deemed too costly and too time consuming for American carriers to emulate.

So, who gets the blame the next time?

Ripsnort · « **Reply #63 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:41:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
The difference is that this add is not done by the RNCs attack dog, but by the bush campiagn directly.

Bush campaign is privately funded.
Moveon.org...privately funded.

Come again?

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Originally posted by Frogm4n
Now if it was done by a RNC attack dog, then i wouldnt care.

you lying sack of....

Frogm4n · « **Reply #64 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:45:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort

and had the administration put those securities effects into place PRE-9/11, how do you think the public would have reacted?

It was called waco.

Oh and rip i have no need to lie. Im a democrat and i believe alot of moveon.org does is downright idiodic. But im not going to associate them with kerry. Just as i dont associate bush with the RNC's attack dogs.

Toad · « **Reply #65 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:52:29 PM »

The obvious answer is this current ad is certainly not an attack ad.

Comparing this 9/11 ad to one in which Hitler morphs into Bush shows the difference.

Moveon, the plausible deniability privately funded mouthpiece, floated a trial balloon for an attack ad.

Bush's privately funded campaign put out an ad attempting to make their candidate look good. SOME people don't like it. Others undoubtedly will like it a lot.

You may find the ad in "bad taste" perhaps but it doesn't even menton Kerry. It's in no way an attack ad.

Hitler morphing into Bush? Any questions, class?

Nakhui · « **Reply #66 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:55:31 PM »

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Originally posted by 10Bears
Compare this to 911. New York is taking fire from both sides of the river.. Did Lt. Bush come back to rescue his comrade? No.. He skidadaled to Nebraska, He ran like a nancy boy to Montaina. It took Karren Hughes to read a prepared statement on television. Rudy Guillinti and former president Clinton had to calm down the people of New York and the country. Bush of course was AWOL as usual.

I remember that!

Everyone was trying to figure out where Bush was....

The chicken watermelon was hiding like a coward!

And then his excuse was ... "well, we didn't want the enemy to know where the president was."

It's easy for him to say "Bring it on." After the US Military has already kicked the watermelon out of the enemy... but at the height of the battle - 9/11 when his life migh be in danger... where was Bush? Did he stand up and say "Bring it on?"

Nope... he was silent as a mouse playing possem.... afraid to peek his head out.... he ran away like a dog with his tail between his legs and leaving a trail of pee - That's Bush!

Now he degraces New Yorkers, Americans, and especially the victims of 9/11 by using their imagines and the circumtances of their death for his political gain?

Bush is a **** bag!

Frogm4n · « **Reply #67 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:55:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
The obvious answer is this current ad is certainly not an attack ad.

Comparing this 9/11 ad to one in which Hitler morphs into Bush shows the difference.

Moveon, the plausible deniability privately funded mouthpiece, floated a trial balloon for an attack ad.

Bush's privately funded campaign put out an ad attempting to make their candidate look good. SOME people don't like it. Others undoubtedly will like it a lot.

You may find the ad in "bad taste" perhaps but it doesn't even menton Kerry. It's in no way an attack ad.

Hitler morphing into Bush? Any questions, class?

Yes the moveon.org add is quite distastefull. At least it was not funded by kerrys campaign.

Thrawn · « **Reply #68 on:** March 04, 2004, 01:56:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Moveon, the plausible deniability privately funded mouthpiece,

Can you actually prove a connection or are you guessing?

Hortlund · « **Reply #69 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:03:21 PM »

I think this place will be unbearable during the election.

(for the record, 10bears and nakhumi are obviously insane and/or the same person...you heard it first here)

Toad · « **Reply #70 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:36:21 PM »

Fer pity's sake, Nexus. You at least should know what NEACP is and the general outline of the mission.

Thrawn, what proof do you want? That it is privately funded or that the DNC folks don't privately sit back and smile when moveon puts out the slime and then make some public comment like "we simply deplore "going negative".

Go ahead; pretend that either the DNC or the RNC are high-minded, honorable political organizations who's real interest is simply in what's best for the nation.

Yah, right.

There P O L I T I C I A N S.

john9001 · « **Reply #71 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:36:42 PM »

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Originally posted by Nakhui
I remember that!

Everyone was trying to figure out where Bush was....

The chicken watermelon was hiding like a coward!

And then his excuse was ... "well, we didn't want the enemy to know where the president was."

It's easy for him to say "Bring it on." After the US Military has already kicked the watermelon out of the enemy... but at the height of the battle - 9/11 when his life migh be in danger... where was Bush? Did he stand up and say "Bring it on?"

Nope... he was silent as a mouse playing possem.... afraid to peek his head out.... he ran away like a dog with his tail between his legs and leaving a trail of pee - That's Bush!

Now he degraces New Yorkers, Americans, and especially the victims of 9/11 by using their imagines and the circumtances of their death for his political gain?

Bush is a **** bag!

gee, i almost think from that post that you don't like boosh and i know that i can't change your mind, so i'm not even going to try.

i'm not going to tell you on 9/11 nobody knew if more attacks were coming

i'm not going to tell you that boosh wanted to go to washington.

i'm not going to tell you that the secret service insisted boosh fly to a air force base where they could protect him , (thats the job of the secret service)

i'm not going to tell you that your phobia of boosh borders on mental illness.

i'm not going to say any of those things, never, not me.

Dinger · « **Reply #72 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:43:16 PM »

it's the job of the secret service to protect the president. It's the job of the president to demonstrate resolve in periods of adversity. And it's his job to tell the secret service where to stick it when their job interferes with his.

Nakhui · « **Reply #73 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:44:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
You may find the ad in "bad taste" perhaps but it doesn't even menton Kerry. It's in no way an attack ad.

Hitler morphing into Bush? Any questions, class?

Hitler morphing into Bush... you got a point there that is dirty advertising..

Which party started this kind of crap?

Jogging the memory at all?
Here's a hint... Bush Senrior and his friend Karl rove..

Remember that turn style of a blackmen leaving prison... and the face of Willy Horton slowly replaced by the face of Michael Dukak...

Who was behind that? Moveorg... or the RNC?

Kettle calling the pot black for sure.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #74 on:** March 04, 2004, 02:46:45 PM »

Nah.

What happened? 3 families related to the Kennedy's called in and said they were outraged?

CNN ran the add on the tube - nothing wrong with it at all. Its a reminder of what the country has been through and if you cant take that... well... then perhaps you might have issues of your very own.

Love the topic of the thread though, mountain, meet molehill.