Damage from Warming Becoming 'Irreversible'

[Nakhui]

Originally posted by Rude
Haven't weather trends and data only been collected for 100 or so years?

Yes. However, scientists are able to determine certain aspects of weather of past centuries by studying deep ice core samlples from the artic and antartic.

[Rude]

Originally posted by Nakhui
Yes. However, scientists are able to determine certain aspects of weather of past centuries by studying deep ice core samlples from the artic and antartic.

Well....I have a difficult time just living my life correctly today....you guys post anything significant here in the O Club so i can hide in my basement:)

[Frogm4n]

Everytime i see gas prices rise i cheer in delite.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Frogm4n
Everytime i see gas prices rise i cheer in delite.

Oh, you like paying more for your consumer goods?

Economics 101: When fuel prices rise, consumer good prices rise, everything from lettuce to CD's...they have to be transported by truck, train or airplane. The additional cost for shipping is reflected in the cost of the goods, which is paid for by you.

So while you're basking in delight, think again, you're paying more for everything, not just gas.

[Dowding]

DeLite - all the toxicity of De without the taste.

[mosgood]

First off, I am not an expert on this (unlike most of the rest of the community)  but I believe that global warming will also increase the cloud layer, which blocks sunlight.. (last part of that sentence should be obvious to most of us)  

[Chairboy]

I'm not certain that it's irreversible, but it certainly gets more and more expensive.  We could conceivably reach a point in the near future where we're forced to deploy orbital shields to block some sunlight to reduce heat.  We can't just use ground based mirrors (or other high albedo surfaces) because once the sunlight is in the atmosphere, the greenhouse effect forces it to expend itself against kerfuffle in the atmosphere, adding heat.

It's an example of an incredibly expensive method for reducing global warming, but it would work.

I certainly hope there is resolution to this before it reaches that point.  Unless, of course...  the NEED for the orbital mirrors spurs the rest of the world into making space travel cheap...   oh dear, conflict of interest....

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by AKIron
Aside from the fact that I hate hot weather what detrimental effects can we expect to see with global warming? Of course there will be radical changes in global weather patterns but who can say what the result of that will be. Sea level will stay the same with the melting polar ice caps right? Or will it go down? If so that means more real estate, how much I have no idea.

Amidst the screams of "the sky is falling", the following seems to be true.

If we are entering a period of global warming (seems likely, but not definite), then the following will happen.  Ocean salinity will decrease (polar ice melt) which in turn will change the circulation patterns of the ocean.

If the circulation patterns are changed in the ocean, a good fraction of the northern hemisphere will experience sustained average temperature decreases.  Therefore, less arable land will be available to North Europe and North America.

Will this cause food shortages/social problems between Canada and the US?  Personally, I doubt it.  However, Canada and N.E. USA would be in for some interesting times.  N.W. USA should be ok since it doesn't depend on ocean water for warming effects.

I'm not wise enough to even predict what will happen in Europe.  Will they all jump in the same boat so that all can survive?  I believe Canada and the US could do this.

curly

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by AKcurly
Amidst the screams of "the sky is falling", the following seems to be true.

If we are entering a period of global warming (seems likely, but not definite), then the following will happen.  Ocean salinity will decrease (polar ice melt) which in turn will change the circulation patterns of the ocean.

If the circulation patterns are changed in the ocean, a good fraction of the northern hemisphere will experience sustained average temperature decreases.  Therefore, less arable land will be available to North Europe and North America.

Will this cause food shortages/social problems between Canada and the US?  Personally, I doubt it.  However, Canada and N.E. USA would be in for some interesting times.  N.W. USA should be ok since it doesn't depend on ocean water for warming effects.

I'm not wise enough to even predict what will happen in Europe.  Will they all jump in the same boat so that all can survive?  I believe Canada and the US could do this.

curly

I can find scientific data shows that we are at the end of a warm spell and appear to be heading for a cooling trend.

Pick your scientist, and the amount of Gov't funding, and I can get you any results you want.

[stiehl]

The problem is that when it happens, it will probably happen relatively quickly. Reach a certain threshhold(whatever that may be) then BOOM, we're SOL

[mosgood]

Pick your scientist, and the amount of Gov't funding, and I can get you any results you want. [/B]

ya... no shiat

[Wlfgng]

All I know is that it was 60 and sunny here yesterday and today its 35 and snowing.

beeyatch.. give it back!!!

[GtoRA2]

Rip
 Froggy can cheer for higher gas prices, cause momy and Dady prolly pay for his car, gas and insurance.

[ravells]

We'll all be driving cars like this before not too long.  Still, you can paint flames on them!

[Chairboy]

I'd rather drive cars like this: