Islam - the faith of terror?

[Staga]

Storch feel free to take my sig-line, I can take another one  

btw it's taken from a Rolling Stones song "Far away eyes".

[fd ski]

The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources don’t portray Muhammad as a great and godly man. They reveal that he was a thief, liar, assassin, mass murderer, terrorist, warmonger, and an unrestrained sexual pervert engaged in pedophilia, incest, and rape. He authorized deception, assassinations, torture, slavery, and genocide.  He was a pirate, not a prophet.  According to the Hadith and the Qur’an, Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity.

Old testament anyone ?

[ravells]

Good post. This will run and run.

First point: The crusades apart from the first - led by Walter the penniless (as far as Christain motives are concerned) was about obtaining wealth.  You can see why OBL and his bunch beat on about the invasion of Iraq as being 'the Crusades'.  The Christains put men, women and children to the sword pretty much because of greed (and those were Christain men, women and children as well as Muslim).

Second: They guy who wrote this book must have a deathwish. I guess he is trying to promote sales on the back of sensationalism, but Salman Rushdie is going to be very happy that the focus will turn away from him.

Third: Has anyone here actually read the Qur'aan? I havn't.

Fourth: My goodness, what a good thread to flush out the fundamentalist Christians here! Almost worth spoofing the website for!  They are the ones who say, 'our atrocities wern't as bad as theirs'. They are the ones who think that all muslims think the same (like little robots) because...well they're muslims, so we must demonise them by painting them all in the same hue.

Fifth: Frogman has the point here: it is a war against ignorance, between religions. Believe me, there are many, many enlightened muslims on this planet (many of whom I've been priveleged to meet). Frankly, I'd far prefer to put my trust into them than some Christians I know. They are anti-violence and despise what is being done in the name of their religion. Their generousity is boundless and I could easily trust them with my life.

sixth: Calling the muslims backward is idiotic. Whilst Christian Europe was wallowing in superstition and the perpetuation of ignorance (to further the aims of the church - surprise, surprise), the muslims were advancing science at a rate not seen until the advent of the reformation.

seventh: The muslims are (and I know this, because I grew up in a muslim country) very protective about their faith. Mess with their religion and you've had it (it's as simple as that). Treat them with respect and debate their religion without being rude, and the non extremist ones will be happy to talk to you about it.

ninth: You Christian fundamentalists should read books written by muslims. I recommend any of the historical novels by Amin Maalouf or the works of Idries Shah.

tenth: Christains, Jews and Muslims have more in common (compared to them and Hindus, Jains, Bhuddists and Confucianists) than you have differences. The real problem, I fear, is that Christianity and Islam are evangelical religions. You are both out to convert us all! For our own good! Such arrogance. They all, as someone said here earlier, just twist religion for political ends.

Ravs

[maslo]

good post Ravs

may be we could fine some more bad words on Orthodox..

here is my try
last year i were in one monastery and i got 2 kiss`s from one nun.
actualy she was very nice and her sister were getting red instead of this one.
dammm i had dreams about her for next 2 weaks

[ravells]

The sadness of it all, Maslo....
























was that you were nun the wiser!


Ravs

[maslo]

oooohhh she was so sweet, she were from Budapest... and dont forget that i didnt kiss her, she did

those othodox girls are quite nice in their suits

[Glasses]

Grab your horse your shield ,your sword and your blessings from The Pope. Cus we're going to crusade like it's 1399

[GtoRA2]

LOL I was going to do that.



I am not religios, but I do think Muslim extremists are far more dangerous then CHristian ones. For now.

[Saintaw]

Originally posted by Eagler
i believe you have me confused with someone else, never stated such a thing

and if i offended any muslims on this board with my goat humpin reference, pls accept my appology - it was aimed at the radical faction of the faith

Sorry Eagler, might have been yeager... am used to the two of you posting radical stuff here. If that wasn't you, I indeed appologise. I don't have a Ripsnort-thread-memory. (I don't keep a book of BBS links)

[Saintaw]

lol Orel, you DOG

[AVRO1]

Originally posted by storch
I have nothing to fear from any man, because nothing can happen to me that isn't ordained of God. All men die.

Reminds me of what Neil Peart wrote in Freewill:

There are those who think that life
Has nothing left to chance
With a host of holy horrors
To direct our aimless dance
A planet of playthings
We dance on the strings
Of powers we cannot perceive
"The stars aren't aligned -
Or the gods are malign"
Blame is better to give then receive

You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose free will

They are those who think theythat
They've been dealt a losing hand
The cards are stacked against them -
They weren't born in Lotus-Land
All pre-ordained
A prisoner in chains
A victim of venomous fate
Kicked in the face
You can pray for a place
In Heaven's unearthly estate
Each of us
A cell of awareness
Imperfect and incomplete
Genetic blends
With uncertain ends
On a fortune hunt
That's far too fleet

Love those lyrics, cause they make sense.
I agree with frogman ,  logic is your best friend.
It is easier to convince someone who wants to believe then someone who wants proof.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by fd ski
Old testament anyone ?

From the understanding of an agnostic:

Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ.

The teachings of Christ are in the New Testament.

Therefore the New Testament trumps the Old.

Example: The Old Testament prohibits the eating of pork. Yet in the book of Acts, Peter is told by God that he can eat meats previously considered unclean.  The New Testament trumps the Old.

[lord dolf vader]

all in all budism is the only one that dosen't require dues.


and the whole "if you meet buddah on the road kill him" thing just tears it.


all the others are piramid schem power grabs by smart people over stupid ones. their despiration is sad but mind control religions are a fact of life.


go budda !!

[Holden McGroin]

How can anyone who weighs 600 lbs have the balls to lecture others on self discpline? - Jack Nicholson in Anger Management

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by GScholz
Really? Does Irish Republican Army ring a bell? If not, perhaps you know of the Bosnian-Serbs? No? Perhaps then you heard of the Serbian Army in Kosovo?

All good Catholic Christians.





Which only shows how little you know of Europe and my country in particular.


Ignorant Christian fundamentalists.

Albanians are Muslim...there trying to kill serbs.. (Lesson for today)