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« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2004, 11:24:26 AM »
Lesson 2
Serbs were crushing the Muslims in Kosovo, NATO intervened on the Muslim side to stop the Serbs
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« Reply #61 on: March 21, 2004, 11:27:10 AM »
Well done Weaselsan. Your next lesson should look into the history of the Balkans which will show that violence from the Christian and Muslim communities against one another has been going on for centuries. Very much a case of six of one and half a dozen of the other.
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« Reply #62 on: March 21, 2004, 11:56:23 AM »
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Romans Chapter 5 all of it, Romans Chapter 6 all of it Romans Chapter 7 all of it Romans Chater 8 all of it.  Look into all of Chapter 9 as well.  The theology is deep to be sure, the answers lie therein true, pure.  To remove the scales placed before your mind's eye just pray for God's enlightenment, the Spirit will lead the way.  Narrow is the way and hard the path, but it is the only way to avoid God's wrath.  Though I do deserve Hell that will not be my sojourn, make my the right choice for alone you will burn.  Enough ghetto rhymes for now ok :aok


Now I'm quite certain that we all have been fooled. Storch is simply the most skillful troller these boards have ever witnessed! Every time we take the time and effort to answer his hilarious posts he is rolling on the floor with tears in his eyes from our naivety. It is time we admit he had us all and bow in awe, this is truly trolling at an impressive level...

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« Reply #63 on: March 21, 2004, 12:27:28 PM »
FWIW, I'm not a pagan.


I'm a godless heathen. :p
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« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2004, 12:54:54 PM »
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[nitpick] Report back is a redundancy. All one needs to do is report.[/nitpick]
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« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2004, 01:09:16 PM »
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« Reply #66 on: March 21, 2004, 02:04:33 PM »
Most western modern societies, are predominantly Christian yet secular by design thereby enable and supporting those of Islam and any other religion recognised as genuine yet most modern middle eastern societies are muslim and do not supPort, and in SOME cases, do not allow (under punishment of death) any other religions to exist.  Its a one way street and if you believe what inspires militant islam, its a very dangerous one way street.

Is this a correct point of view in my case?
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« Reply #67 on: March 21, 2004, 04:53:27 PM »
Fortunately(yes, fortunately), such a book will probably never be published in our country since it hardly holds any commercial value... so I've never read that book.

 If I may judge by the total waste of crap the website spews, I seriously advise other people to take up a well translated version of the Kur-an before reading that book.

 Arabic is very 'poetic' language in nature, and nuances and meanings vary carefully upon each text. Unfortunately, that point has been brutally exploited by Christian radicals to portray it as a demon's religion.

 How could they not do so?

 The Islam faith conquered almost all of the southern/eastern half what used to be the old Roman empire in about three centuries. The Christians of the 'Old faith' were actually welcoming Arabic conquerors - only taxes were issued to the conquered territories which were at a much lower rate than the Byzantine Empire collected.  They were free to keep their religion.

 If any Christian should turn Muslim, he was rid of his tax duties forever - which caused mass conversions of Christians to Muslims. Later on, the Islam officials actually had to try and convince their new subjects to STOP converting to Islam... and then finally, got rid of the policy of non-taxes to the first and second generation of newly converted Muslims.

 I'm sorry to say that the spitting image of terror and doom, was what the Christian world was like in the old days, rather than what Islam was like. Basically what it says on the website is a 'wishful thinking' of a fanatic.

 I've studied a bit in Islam and the Kur-an, not deeply though, but if I'm correct, the first shown verse of Ishaq:471 on the website, is a typical case of deliberate misinterpretation - it goes more like this;

 "We are given a prophet who shall unite all the men, and bind them to our faith"

 It may sound simular, but notice that the nuance is totally different. Basically they are praising their prophet whom they believe God has sent, so many people shall benefit from his wisdom and enlightment. The website turns it into a prophecy of the arrival of an Antichrist or something.

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« Reply #68 on: March 21, 2004, 05:01:38 PM »
Oh yeah, did I mention most conventional Islam scholars do not support terrorist acts, or Homeini's dictatorship that sprang up in Iran? Nor did they support Saddam's Iraq. (but then again, the Pope didn't support US waging war against Iraq, so I guess those scholars and pope-guys don't represent any part of Christianity or Islam faith.... who knows?)
 
 Maybe people haven't heard. It's not hard to understand. Saying such things out loud in the Middle-East, is like crying out loud "I don't support the war" in the US.

 Either that, or CNN never broadcasts the opinions that don't satisfy their own version of right and wrong.

 Maybe both.

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« Reply #69 on: March 21, 2004, 05:10:40 PM »
May I recommend History Of the Arab Peoples by Albert Hourani ISBN: 0446393924.
It basically covers Islam from it's inception to the 20th century, concentrating on the Arabs (i.e. the Near East and North Africa).

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« Reply #70 on: March 21, 2004, 05:13:26 PM »
To add a bit more about just when did these radical Islams appear - there was the terrorist sect known as the Hashishins during the 200 years of the Crusades, but they were wiped out by the Mongols.

 They represent a very small part of Islam faith which is different from the mainstream Islam, which would be equivalent to something like the difference between Mormons and the Catholics. At anyrate, that sect which is most commonly associated with 'terrorism', died away in the 13th century.

 Now just when did Islam begin to change - guess what - after the Crusades. People change when a rampaging horde crosses stretches of land and make genocide in your lands. They become very protective. I'm sure Americans would understand, if they can associate such feelings of being violated when they think of the tragedy of 9.11.

 Now, if that's tragic, think about what the whole people there would feel when it's like 9.11 everyday for 200 years.

(sorry for the cynicism.. but that website was pretty much outrageous, so I think I'm a bit steamed)

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« Reply #71 on: March 22, 2004, 08:25:36 AM »
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« Reply #72 on: March 22, 2004, 10:49:29 PM »
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It makes no difference what evil may have been committed in the past by members calling themselves Muslims. A true Muslim never could commit any of those atrocities, the Holy Spirit would not permit it to be so. But attempting to explain that to you or any other Christian separated from common sense is akin to attempting to explain "blue" to one whom has never seen or Fur Elise to one whom has never heard. - Gunter Scholz


I didn't read all the posts, I apologise if this has been pointed out  - trivial in a way but still...

Muslims do not believe in the "Holy Spirit."
They do not believe in the trinity. Just Allah.
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