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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2004, 07:27:49 PM »
Politics have played a major role in why I feel like I do now. The emotion pain stems not only from the guilt I feel, but also from the shots and jabs by people that know. I asked one person who wanted her to keep the child what would have happened if she had died during delivery?

They said, "It doesn't matter, the child would be ok."

I second guess myself every day. I don't know why, but I do.

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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2004, 07:34:06 PM »
I'm sorry tex.

take care.

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« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2004, 07:48:52 PM »
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They said, "It doesn't matter, the child would be ok."

 


Thats a pretty sick and petty comment.

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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2004, 08:56:55 PM »
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My ex-wife had an abortion while we were married.
Thats all fine and dandy exept i did not know about it!

She lied to the DRs and told them she was single.

So now im 46 and will never have a child.
waite a minute I did have a child once.

You see where im going with this.
It may be a womans right to choose.
But at what point do the fathers of these babies have a say so?


What if it wasn't yours?

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« Reply #34 on: March 27, 2004, 09:44:13 PM »
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You seem to forget that she did not create that life by herself!
Therefore the man should have some rights in the matter.
And if there married even more so.


Shoulda... woulda...

The man will have what ever rights the mother allows. Another reason to find a good woman.
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2004, 10:09:23 PM »
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What if it wasn't yours?


Say hi to your wife and my kids will ya LOL.

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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2004, 10:11:49 PM »
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They said, "It doesn't matter, the child would be ok."

 


Thats the statement of an imature mind.
Pay it no mind .
In your case you did what you had to do to preserve the life of you girlfriend.
Wich in any sain persons mind was the RIGHT thing to do.
Sorry for your pain.

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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2004, 12:05:41 AM »
sry to hear that tex :(

Im not religious in any sense of the word (actually, at all!) and i give a rat's bellybutton about gringo political /ideological parties or whatchamacallit ;) :D

My stand is simple. If the couple are pregnant and there is nothing endangering the life of either mother or child, then abortion in that case is murder.  To abort just because the child is an inconvenience is inexcusable. I wonder if castration was to be a requirement of abortion, would abortion to get rid of the 'inconvenience' be popular? *snip* *snip* and its all kosher.

If the child or mother are threatened, or if its the result of a rape or if there is a detected crippling genetic issue... then its a case of TRIAGE. And the mother IS the one that has to make the choice in such a case. A very hard choice :(

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« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2004, 05:47:30 AM »
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She is doing well, better than she was. Emotionally, though, we're both still not the same as we were beforehand.

I appreciate the support. I still wish there was something more I could have done, but at that point, I didn't have anything I could do. I had said that if there was only a slight chance, then I'd suggest going for it. But the docs told me serious or definate, and at that point I left it up to her.



You'll get through this. Both of you. You'll have more kids. One couldn't make it to this world, but there will be others who will.

It's normal you feel the pain of a lost kid. Shows you're a good man. If you had no bad feelings about it then you won't be a normal being ,IMHO.

But there will be a day when you'll look at your sons and love them even more because you know you lost one a long time ago, and because you know what is such a loss...even while the son still wasn't in this world.


Be strong, go ahead and try not getting stuck in the past. What happened, happened...you can't change it.

I don't know you too much, but know that you have all my support from here, Texace. And for your GF too, I'm sure she felt and feels way worse than you about this, no matter how bad do you feel. Be strong for her, I'm sure she needs it...

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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2004, 10:12:48 PM »
Guys, thank you. I appreciate it. Knowing I've got supports means a lot.

:)

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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2004, 10:25:47 PM »
Texace ignore the idiots (on this bbs or the ones you deal with in real life).  Your girlfiend and you took the only viable course available to you.  I'm very sorry that you and your girlfriend had to experience this tradegy and wish both of you the best in the future.

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« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2004, 12:08:12 AM »
My new wife Is 47.
The heath risk are too great fro her.
And the risk for a downs syndrom baby are very high at her age.

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« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2004, 07:29:54 AM »
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Originally posted by texace
Politics have played a major role in why I feel like I do now. The emotion pain stems not only from the guilt I feel, but also from the shots and jabs by people that know. I asked one person who wanted her to keep the child what would have happened if she had died during delivery?

They said, "It doesn't matter, the child would be ok."

I second guess myself every day. I don't know why, but I do.


tex
as you know, I am against abortion, mainly because it is used as birth control today. I am not against it when it is the viable option to save the mothers life.
In your case, I'd made the same decision. And I bet if ur "friends" were in the same boat, they'd done likewise.

hope the wound heals fast for the both of you
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« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2004, 08:45:28 AM »
silat said..  "Your rights end at her skin..."

does that mean that your responsibilities end at her skin also?  I mean.... if it's soley her  baby then she should be the sole person to care for it right?

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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2004, 08:47:25 AM »
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Say hi to your wife and my kids will ya LOL.


You have no idea how funny that line is.