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Offline straffo

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« Reply #60 on: March 29, 2004, 12:40:02 PM »
Instead of making some incomprehensible post what about giving me 3 examples of applied altruism ?

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« Reply #61 on: March 29, 2004, 12:44:12 PM »
Oh ..oh ... can I? Please? Please?

WWI (you're welcome, France)

WWII (you're welcome, France)

Desert Storm (you're welcome Kuwait ... wth .... and France)

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« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2004, 12:44:48 PM »
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Gents, in the middle of this barking, you have lost the pearl of the entire thread:

 

wonderfull :)

:D

:rofl


Whats funny?

Saddam did try assasinate president George HW Bush in the early 1990s when he visited Saudi Arabia. Thats a matter of recorced fact, and it was so grevious that president Clinton ordered military attacks on Saddam and his intelligence services in reprisal.

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« Reply #63 on: March 29, 2004, 12:46:11 PM »
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Originally posted by straffo
Instead of making some incomprehensible post what about giving me 3 examples of applied altruism ?


OK

WWI
WWII
Korea
Vietnam
Grenada
Panama
Kuwait
Somalia
Haiti

I'm as sure others can name many more as I am that you will question the altruism of these I've listed.
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« Reply #64 on: March 29, 2004, 12:49:54 PM »
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I don't see how you can get around the fact that Bush* admin lied about the WMD - isnt it obvious from Clarke et al that Bush* was looking for a reason to mess with Iraq?  Remember O'Neill's reports of Bush* admin wanting to go into Iraq before 9-11 happenned?  

Lets not forget that Iraq has a lot of oil.  THAT is why we are there.  Oil is finite, demand keeps increasing and production will one day start to fall off.  It might be happenning now - witness record gas prices.  

If oil reserves are falling - the US military industrial complex needs a pipeline - hence we are in Iraq.  Welcome to the New World Order brought to you by PNAC and the thugs in the Bush* admin.


WE ARE STEALING THE OIL!!!!! STEALING IT!!!!!  MY GOODNESS ITS BEEN AGES SINCE I HAVE HAD TO PAY FOR OIL!!!! WTG OIL INVASION OF IRAQ!!!!

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« Reply #65 on: March 29, 2004, 01:00:42 PM »
We obviously don't have the same definition of altruisme.
IMO you would better double check.

You pretend in all the following examples the interrest of the USA where not endangered or seen as endangered ?

Let see some other examples of altruisme :rolleyes:  

1953: Iran 1954:Guatemala 1973: Chili


Either you are lieing to yourself or you delberatly choose to be blind but there never was anything like any form of altruisme in the relation between different nations (France included obviouly).

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« Reply #66 on: March 29, 2004, 01:33:55 PM »
al·tru·ism
n.
1. Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness.
2. Instinctive cooperative behavior that is detrimental to the individual but contributes to the survival of the species.

I had little doubt you would disagree Straffo, but that's ok.
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« Reply #67 on: March 29, 2004, 02:05:04 PM »
Quite right for me even if I prefer a  "complexified" version :D

I should stop participate in "café philo" as for me it's :
"doctrine qui considère le dévouement à autrui comme la règle idéale de la moralité"
The translation should be something like : "doctrines which consider devotion to others as the ideal rule of morality".

(FYI a "café-philo" is a meeting of people nitpicking on philosophical debates about ethic,morale , esthetism and lot of other subject.)


I need to dig a bit to find a citation made by Tocqueville about the relation between nations, it pretty well resume my thought.

And btw my post were I commented Lazs2's post should not be preceived as a critic of the USA ,my "propos" was not to bash unnecessarily.

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« Reply #68 on: March 29, 2004, 02:08:30 PM »
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I don't know about you, (well maybe I do) but I personally take it very personal that Hussein tried to assasinate my ex-president. Especially one that I liked as much as George Bush. If it had been up to me we would have invaded Iraq at that time and killed the murdering, no honor, sob Hussein.


So, in your line, having an american assassinated one of my uncles, I had to declare war on your nation?

Oh, wait, we were already at war, and then become friends.

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I'm old enough to have joined the military in '73 and retired in '95. How old are you? [/B]


5 years younger.....

:D

Only 5 years before coming like you.... :eek:

Scaring.

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« Reply #69 on: March 29, 2004, 02:10:54 PM »
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Only 5 years before coming like you.... :eek:

Scaring.

:rofl


Only if you're lucky. :)
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« Reply #70 on: March 29, 2004, 02:12:34 PM »
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Whats funny?

Saddam did try assasinate president George HW Bush in the early 1990s when he visited Saudi Arabia. Thats a matter of recorced fact, and it was so grevious that president Clinton ordered military attacks on Saddam and his intelligence services in reprisal.


Are you sure U.S. never tryied something similar with adversaries?

Just asking.

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« Reply #71 on: March 29, 2004, 02:13:11 PM »
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Only if you're lucky. :)


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« Reply #72 on: March 29, 2004, 03:39:04 PM »
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So saddam should not get a lawyer?


No...he should get a very large ugly cellmate named Bin Bubba.

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« Reply #73 on: March 29, 2004, 03:42:14 PM »
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Are you sure U.S. never tryied something similar with adversaries?

Just asking.


If we did, their dead.....Bush is just fine.
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« Reply #74 on: March 29, 2004, 03:48:32 PM »
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WE ARE STEALING THE OIL!!!!! STEALING IT!!!!!  MY GOODNESS ITS BEEN AGES SINCE I HAVE HAD TO PAY FOR OIL!!!! WTG OIL INVASION OF IRAQ!!!!

Damnit Grun, quit hogging all of the free oil!  I just had to pay $1.79/gal for some gasoline yesterday.  Greedy bastard!
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