Do you wonder why the US troops loose the population support in Iraq?

[AKIron]

Originally posted by SunTracker
Oh God that tanker was (is) a dirtbag.  

Over $5 of wood, the Iraqi lost his car (which was his job as a taxi driver).  

Who knows what the Iraqi wanted the wood for, maybe cooking fuel, maybe to board up the doors and windows of his house for protection.

The tanker should buy the Iraqi a new car.  What do cars cost over there, a few hundred?

I bet the Iraqi's new job is RPG gunner in the insurgent army.

I don't think it's been established that it was only wood that was stolen. There may have been othere things that were removed from the car or their persons prior to the start of the video. I also don't agree that their action was necessarily inappropriate. They may have had orders to do exactly what was done. Looting in a situation like that can be a very serious problem and must be dealt with firmly if not severely.

Bias becomes very obvious when those with little facts rush to judgement.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by Staga
So Funked were you in army and if yes were you also a MP ?

No of course not.  I am just glad we are so lucky to have so many military experts here who can comment intelligently on every minute detail of US military actions.

[mosgood]

ya, another thing to remember is that these troops did NOT get criminal justice schooling like a cop does.  They ARE just kids and are being asked to do something that they were NOT trained for.

Does it suck for the Iraqi that lost his car?  Sure it does.  But as I said in previous post, it could have been a whole lot worse for him.

Saying that they should have taken them to a checkpoint or somewhere else for judgement is assuming that they had the freedom to leave their patrol area.  It also assumes that they were NOT in contact with a higher up that ordered them to do exactly what they did.  I hear our troops got issued radios a few years ago...

[mosgood]

double post

[mars01]

WOW,

OK those soldiers get the Jackprettythang award!!!! Hands down.

What is with the idiot asking, why that kid is not in school.  Yeah like school is going on or even exists?

Did you see what they stole, give me a break.  If that is what the soldiers are supposed to be doing then someone fked up somewhere.  

Whatever moron put those morons in charge should be held responsible as well.

If the roles were reversed and Iraq was the super power that came to liberate us, and this happened to me, I would be signing up with the resistance forces that day.

I can't believe who ever was in charge let that happen.  A perfect example of a few idiots making everyone look bad.

[Bodhi]

I remember the looters booing the US Guard after Hurricane Andrew...  simply put, those Iraqi's should have been shot for looting.  You all act as though the US troops acted like the aggressors, I liked the comment by the one trooper saying, "You want to loot, this is what happens."  THen the BS comment about the poor cab driver... whaaaaa!!!!  In the US if you use your car in the commission of a crime, YOU LOSE IT!  SO guess what, maybe he should not have been looting....

The sad thing about all this is that you pansies feel sorry for the looters, and not the child who was participating at too early an age in rediculous bs that he has no right too.

[Otto]

Ending on film:  "I'm a Taxi driver and this car was my livelyhood."

    Actual ending:  "We stole the car before we decided to loot these buildings"

[mars01]

Its not so much the loss of the looters car, but the attitude and unprofessional way it went down.  They shot the car with pistols, were laughing and having a gay ole time.

It makes the Army and America look like a bunch of Aholes.

[rabbidrabbit]

FYI,

That occured on the first days that the troops arrived in Baghdad.  They were under a lot of pressure to quell the looting and this is how these guys did it.  Was a bit of overkill.  I would have thought a couple rounds in the car would have given them a reminder.  Of all the things going on, this is not the mega event some of you guys are making it out to be.  I'll agree that it should have been handled more professionally but you should consider the circumstances.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by deSelys
Hey Muck, I won't speak for the rest of Europe but in my case I'm just hoping that:

the losses of life stop ASAP in Iraq

You mean .... if the U.S. pulls out that the loss of life will stop in Iraq? Cool!

I want the U.S. to pull out of the U.S. then!

[Gixer]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
I'd never ignore anyone, especially one like him...

I wonder if its possible that he will just admit his error in the next post and simply move on... Or if he will feel the urge to attack and ridicule again...

Grun,

"I love how you project this one incident to suit your preconceved biases. "

Attack and ridicule?

You were the one to attack and ridicule on a personal note from your very first response to me. I was just ridiculing Cheyne's wishful thinking on how the troops would be welcomed into Iraq as liberators as part of the pre war spin. Suprised you haven't moved on.

Or is quoting US vice presidents in a adverse way enough to get you ignored these days?




...-Gixer

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
That occured on the first days that the troops arrived in Baghdad.

How do you know that?

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by Thrawn
How do you know that?

It was in the show.. this is a clipping from a program I saw last week.. think it was cnn presents..  I may be wrong on that.

[lazs2]

just one more reason why we should let the sadman go and surrender imediately.

maybe if we apolodgize the bad men won't blow up any of our trains.

lazs

[Otto]

As far as what Iraqis  think of the US Army.  Who's opinion do you want?  

The owner of the Car?

Or the owner of the House?