Danish businessman kidnapped in Iraq found dead

[deSelys]

Do you suffer from a Parkinson attack, Ripsnort? I mean, double then triple post, wow!

[Duedel]

Ripsnort we know that quoting is ur hobby but this is way to much ...

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by deSelys
Do you suffer from a Parkinson attack, Ripsnort? I mean, double then triple post, wow!

LOL, sorry, something happend to my server!

[Gixer]

Ripsnort,

Nice quote, but I was after your opinion as to  whether you think the level of terroism in Iraq is less or more since the invasion.

If you agree it's more then those other quotes of intelligence regarding terroism in Iraq prior to the invasion are insignificant given the situation in the country now and the middle east overall.

As for the fighting in Iraq rather then in our doorstep, that's rather wishfull thinking given the increased and amount of terroist attacks going on around the world at the moment.



Cheers,

[ravells]

So let me understand this.

You are insulting a hostage negotiator who has already (if the report is accurate) been instrumental in securing the release of allied hostages because he has dared to suggest that the Danish hostage may have been killed by American friendly fire?

Ravs

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Gixer
Ripsnort,

Nice quote, but I was after your opinion as to  whether you think the level of terroism in Iraq is less or more since the invasion.
 

My quote expresses the prediction that there would be more, and it came true.  They're coming out of the woodwork to fight what they perceive as the evil empire.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Gixer
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As for the fighting in Iraq rather then in our doorstep, that's rather wishfull thinking given the increased and amount of terroist attacks going on around the world at the moment.



Cheers,

And we'll never know how much more there would have been if Iraq had gone unchecked.  These guys just don't stop after committing atrocities, Gixer.  If you run and hide, you give them more will power to attack again, so damned if we do, damned if we don't.

[Duedel]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
And we'll never know how much more there would have been if Iraq had gone unchecked.  These guys just don't stop after committing atrocities, Gixer.  If you run and hide, you give them more will power to attack again, so damned if we do, damned if we don't.

Unchecked? How much there would have been ? So u have to invade EVERY country to see how much there would have been? This is such a silly argumentation.

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
And we'll never know how much more there would have been if Iraq had gone unchecked.  These guys just don't stop after committing atrocities, Gixer.  If you run and hide, you give them more will power to attack again, so damned if we do, damned if we don't.

But all that asks the question whether the war in Iraq has even the slightest thing  at all to do with the war against terror. Beyond me how it is any help at all other then to have teh very adverse effect of making the problem worse.



...-Gixer

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Gixer
But all that asks the question whether the war in Iraq has even the slightest thing  at all to do with the war against terror.
...-Gixer

We can go round and round, or you can read my post:

Originally posted by Ripsnort
How soon we forget, or choose to look the other way, out of political arrogance....

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Our war on terror begins with al Qaida, but it does not end there. . . . we will pursue nations that provide aid or safe haven to terrorism. Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists. From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime. . . President George W. Bush, Joint Session of Congress, September 20, 2001
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Saddam Hussein is paying $25,000 to the relatives of Palestinian suicide bombers -- a $15,000 raise much welcomed by the bombers' families. In Tulkarm, one of the poorest towns on the West Bank, a member of the Palestinian Legislative Council handed out the checks from Saddam. The payments have been made for at least two years, but the amount has suddenly jumped up by $15,000 -- a bonus for the families of 'martyrs', to reward those taking part in the escalating war against Israel. . . . Fox News, March 26, 2002
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This general served Saddam Hussein for decades. Along with another Iraqi defector, Sabah Khodada (see below), the general tells of terrorists training in a Boeing 707 resting next to railroad tracks on the edge of Salman Pak, an area south of Baghdad. The existence of the plane has been confirmed by U.N. inspectors. The general describes the men who trained there, the camp's security, and his "gut feeling" that the camp was in some way tied to the Sept. 11 attacks. Iraqi Lt. General, PBS and New York Times Interview, November 6, 2001
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A captain in the Iraqi army from 1982 to 1992, he worked at what he describes as a highly secret terrorist training camp at Salman Pak, an area south of Baghdad. In this translated interview Khodada describes what went on at Salman Pak, including details on training hijackers. He emigrated to the U.S. in May 2001. Sabah Kodada, Iraqi Army Captain, PBS and New York Times Interview, October 14, 2001
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An investigation by Frontline confirmed that Iraqi intelligence had trained at least forty Islamic terrorists between 1995 and 2000 in how to hijacking airliners using a Boeing-747 that was originally Kuwaiti property. Frontline, PBS, November 14, 2001
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Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American citizens. . . . Congressional Resolution Authorizing Force Against Iraq, October 15, 2002
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Shortly before the Sept. 11 attacks, a group of al-Qaida fighters left Afghanistan and set up shop in Iraq as a backup base, according to a report in today‘s Los Angeles Times. Osama bin Laden‘s jihadists established such a base in town of Al Biyara and nearby mountain villages where Kurdish militants had begun imposing the strict Islamic rule much like Afghanistan‘s ousted Taliban regime, according to the Times report. While this base is further evidence of Saddam Hussein‘s recent support of al-Qaida, documented by many intelligence sources over the last 10 years, Iraq is attempting to maintain plausible deniability with regard to the bases – suggesting they are outside the control of the government in Baghdad. Intelmessages.com and Los Angeles Times, December 9, 2002
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The British also released a dossier on Iraq which claimed that at least two key Al-Qaeda lieutenants underwent training inIraq. The dossier also confirmed that Iraq was paying Al-Qaeda to use its Ansar forces based in northern Iraq to attack the Kurdish forces. Reuters, September 14, 2002
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Simply no basis for action

[Duedel]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
We can go round and round, or you can read my post:

What about reading my posts instead of posting the same and the same and the same?

[Gixer]

Ripsnort,

Yes but I was trying to develop the argument further and to read your opinon rather then just to see you paste the same quotes again.



...-Gixer

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Duedel
Unchecked? How much there would have been ? So u have to invade EVERY country to see how much there would have been? This is such a silly argumentation.

Your arguement is silly. We will never know what Saddam would have done in years gone by, to his people, and to the world, now will we?

[Duedel]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Your arguement is silly. We will never know what Saddam would have done in years gone by, to his people, and to the world, now will we?

Thats not the question Ripsnort. That Saddam was a terrorist himself is not questionalbe. Further on we knew what he's done to his folk (at least that was one argument to invade Iraq).

Try again...

[Ripsnort]

Do you have a word in Germany for "Harbor"?  How about "Promote"?