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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2004, 08:31:17 PM »
The more we learn about this guy the more amazed I am. He kept a 3.84 GPA in college, graduated early, stayed wih his home team for less 3 times less money and then gave up those millions to defend our country after 911. Simply an amazing guy, and a great American..
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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2004, 08:47:43 PM »
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2004, 09:02:13 PM »
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Lets say he died in Iraq, how many people would point a finger if he had?  Food for thought...the war on Terrorism is a long one.

Let's not twist this into some self-serving political debate. No place for that here.
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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2004, 11:51:24 PM »
Copied my post from the other Tlman thread. It belongs here as well.



On one sense this man had no more to lose than any other soldier. He lost just as much as every other KIA did.

The fact that he was a football player that left to join the Army is unusual but doesn't necessarily make him special.

The fact that he did that without ANY fanfare and to serve with his brother does make him special.

He didn't have to do it. No one forced this choice on him. There wasn't any extreme financial pressure or other circumstance that required this act.

His choice to serve his country and do something in return for what he had enjoyed makes him special. There certainly wasn't any other incentive for him to do that.

Those actions made him special particularly in that he put himself in harms way for others. He certainly is worthy of respect in the path he chose.

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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2004, 12:07:39 AM »


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« Reply #50 on: April 24, 2004, 12:59:37 AM »
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The more we learn about this guy the more amazed I am. He kept a 3.84 GPA in college, graduated early, stayed wih his home team for less 3 times less money and then gave up those millions to defend our country after 911. Simply an amazing guy, and a great American..


ESPN did a small special on it years ago, which they are now rerunning on Sportscenter....it touched me when I saw it then and even more now..what stood out to me was that neither one of them never spoke to the media about their decision.
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« Reply #51 on: April 24, 2004, 02:01:27 AM »
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The fact that he did that without ANY fanfare and to serve with his brother does make him special.



The local media tried voraciously to get him to appear, to comment, to make it headline news.  Tillman absolutely refused, saying only that he was no different than any other volunteer.
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« Reply #52 on: April 24, 2004, 07:25:46 AM »
No Gixer, get it right.  What makes this situation special is that he chose to serve his country rather than take the 'easy ticket' out.  There are those in the world that think Americans are only concerned with themselves and not with anything else but their own personal gratification, world be damned to get it.

He knew he wasn't more than the average soldier.

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« Reply #53 on: April 24, 2004, 08:47:00 AM »
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« Reply #54 on: April 24, 2004, 10:12:11 AM »
Originally posted by Ripsnort
"Lets say he died in Iraq, how many people would point a finger if he had?"



This Thread is about Pat Tillman, it's not about yours, or Grunhertz's, or anybody else's political opinion. This should be the ONE Thread where you should chill out and refrain from politicizing, Ripsnort. Try to show some class for a change.
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« Reply #55 on: April 24, 2004, 10:28:01 AM »
You dont point a finger when someone dies at all ...period.
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« Reply #56 on: April 24, 2004, 10:29:49 AM »
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No need to say that.

He lived according to his ideal and died for something he believed in.

That's honorable .


Agreed...

Fine example of a good man
 
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« Reply #57 on: April 24, 2004, 10:44:20 AM »
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« Reply #58 on: April 24, 2004, 10:56:35 AM »
Man, notice the striking difference between the civilian photo from the active duty one. At the only AH con I went to you could spot the active duty folks from accross the room. I guess that PT stuff actually works.

Wonder if he's got his tab yet, looks like he's spec4 now so I'm guessing he did. Good for him, means no more hanging upside down from wall lockers, or humping some spec4's snivel gear, or getting drug out of bed in the middle of night because some drunks wanna throw things at a maggot.

Now if he can unregiment his self and he can conduct daily activities with little instruction and no supervision, and he's got above avg intelligence he'll have a good shot at SF.
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« Reply #59 on: April 24, 2004, 11:12:55 AM »
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But I'm sure Hristo and the rest of the European contingent of AlQaeda will be along shortly to set us right about this brave man and urge us to praise the true freedom fighters....  
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This guy took a stand and fell for his country, and I salute his memory.

You just duck behind your monitor and take cheap potshots, showing only bigotry and stupidity.

You are sad my friend...
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