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Offline Toad

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« Reply #75 on: May 14, 2004, 10:50:07 AM »
I'd love to see a .10 a gallon tax added on right now.

The money collected goes into a "lottery pot". It's divided into 60% for 1st place, 30% for 2nd place and 10% for 3rd place.

Winners are first teams/companies to develop a workable/cost effective system to use hydrogen to fuel automobiles. Let an independent board set the standards, not the government or the car companies.

Woohoo...... even if it didn't turn out, it'd be as much fun as watching a great sporting event as folks tried to grab the brass ring.
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« Reply #76 on: May 14, 2004, 11:00:27 AM »
$1.87 in Western Montana, and the people here are on the verge of a riot, most people here cant remember prices this high.  I just laugh, they were higher than this when I left Cali 6 months ago....

FYI: diesel is $1.85 here.....

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« Reply #77 on: May 14, 2004, 02:31:36 PM »
If im not wrong, one of important factor, whitch brough price higher are lies about oil reserves in US.

Anyway its still too cheap copare to rest of the world
« Last Edit: May 15, 2004, 04:17:16 AM by lada »

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« Reply #78 on: May 14, 2004, 08:47:45 PM »
yes lada... America is one big lie told by big fat American bully liars.... It hardly seems fair that we run everything and live so well...  Oh well.... we can't hang on much longer..

I would suggest that you simply hold your breath until we are destroyed.

maybe if kerry gets elected... he understands that we should be punished.

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« Reply #79 on: May 14, 2004, 10:17:10 PM »
Here in eastern Montana, $1.95 or so will get you a gallon of a lovely 87 octane + water blend.

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« Reply #80 on: May 14, 2004, 10:40:50 PM »
I can't wait for the "Hybrids"...Minivans,SUV's..(Heck,even muscle cars)...To become the new craze.

Then we can sit back and watch as those damn Saudi's start flooding the world market with cheap gas...oops,I mean cheap oil prices.
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« Reply #81 on: May 15, 2004, 04:05:02 AM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
yes lada... America is one big lie told by big fat American bully liars.... It hardly seems fair that we run everything and live so well...  Oh well.... we can't hang on much longer..

I would suggest that you simply hold your breath until we are destroyed.

maybe if kerry gets elected... he understands that we should be punished.

lazs



use brain for better performance you little genius
http://www.thedesertsun.com/news/stories2004/business/20040313024553.shtml
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0419-08.htm
http://www.betterworld.com/getreallist/article.php?story=20040308222042196

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3523646.stm

edit one more for our genius
http://www.economist.com/agenda/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2516309
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« Reply #82 on: May 15, 2004, 04:27:03 AM »
Hey Lada, you stated, "If im not wrong, one of important factor, whitch brough price higher are lies about oil reserves in US."

The links you posted have to do with Shell Oil Company, with worldwide reserves, much of the reserve downgrade has to do with Nigeria. I saw nothing in my skim of the links about domestic US reserves.
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« Reply #83 on: May 15, 2004, 04:58:52 AM »
You right Holden, i were not quite sure about Shell`s problem and it were wrong. Im reading more article about it and it seems that beside Shell problems there is one important factor and its raised consumption.

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn41263.htm


edit: about Shell. Yes shell's lie affected US as well, coz its probably Shell's biggest market. So if Shell lie in generaly, you can expect problems on all Markets, specialy on most biggest.
It were my wrong information that lie's about reserves are limited only to US.
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« Reply #84 on: May 15, 2004, 05:13:57 AM »
$2.61 per gallon - I WISH!!! Also a convert to diesel btw, bought my first one 5 years ago, just bought a new 307 2ltr diesel - never go back to petrol now.

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« Reply #85 on: May 15, 2004, 07:30:52 AM »
how much of socialist europe's at the pump price for fuel are taxes?  I'll bet it's upwards of 80%.   my daughter says that it's about US$5.00 per gallon now in some places.  Alarming.  good thing for us we kicked you guys back across the pond to where you belong.  We (the US) should probably withdraw from the UN, too much euro influence coming from that agency.

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« Reply #86 on: May 15, 2004, 07:39:01 AM »
1 Litre here cost from 0.8 to 1.2(aprox) €

Taxes are around 50% +- 10%

And fuel consumption here is about 60% lower

for example, germnay need 9.8x less fuel that US
Everybody probably know that germany isnt 10x smaller

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« Reply #87 on: May 15, 2004, 07:58:38 AM »
Germany and Montana are about the same size.

Germany 357,021 sqkm

Montana 376,978 sqkm

US population = 300 MM  Germany = 83 MM
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« Reply #88 on: May 15, 2004, 08:48:02 AM »
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Germany and Montana are about the same size.

Germany 357,021 sqkm

Montana 376,978 sqkm

US population = 300 MM  Germany = 83 MM


yup thats what i say 300/83=3.6 < 19.000/2.000

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« Reply #89 on: May 15, 2004, 08:53:16 AM »
All I can do is laugh at you Amurricans... first you buy overweighted cars with big (and fuel hungry) engines and then you ***** when fuel costs more....

"Average fuel economy peaked at 22.1 miles to the gallon in the late 1980's, according to the agency, but has eroded since then to 20.7 miles for the 2003 model year."
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Just keep on buying SUVs and pickups etc but please, do not ***** if you can't afford to buy gas for it   :rolleyes:

Schaden I'm driving a 307 also though it's just an ordinary 1,6XS; not enough km/year to make diesel profitable (We have special tax for diesel cars).