Hillary wants a larger military.

[Gyro/T69]

A draft is political suicide.

You need to expand on this. For who, Kerry if elected, the Dems? They have been the ones harping on the need for a draft. Need more input.

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Gyro/T69
You need to expand on this. For who, Kerry if elected, the Dems? They have been the ones harping on the need for a draft. Need more input.

Anyone who has a hand in reinstating a draft will be come unelectable.

[Gyro/T69]

I was unaware that we were having a recruiting problem that necessitated a draft. Its not like we've had a tremendous amount of casualties (compared to previous conflicts of the same length.)

I agree, haven’t heard how many divisions their talking about. They'd first have to build each new regiment or battalion size unit from a core of experienced officers, NCOs. Going to be a large undertaking anyway you cut it.

[Gyro/T69]

Anyone who has a hand in reinstating a draft will be come unelectable.

Why?

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Gyro/T69
Why?

Sending kids off to a war they did not volunteer to fight, while half the population objects to the way it is run is never a good idea.

[Gyro/T69]

Sending kids off to a war they did not volunteer to fight, while half the population objects to the way it is run is never a good idea.

Who said it was for Iraq? Kerry wouldn't pull that would he? Oh BTW, the manpower for every long term war the US has fought has been rounded out with a draft. Don't remember many folks being voted out of office because of it. Maybe Johnson (68), but he decided not to run.

[StabbyTheIcePic]

When was the last time a war was unpopular. Vietnam. And LBJ resigned over it. Hell korea affected truman.

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[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by StabbyTheIcePic
When was the last time a war was unpopular. Vietnam. And LBJ resigned over it. Hell korea affected truman.

Ummm HELLO....DID YOU EVER HEAR OF THE CIVIL WAR?  It wasnt so civil now was it.

I know I'm being dumb....I didnt have anything of real importance to ad so I just threw that in there.

[Gyro/T69]

When was the last time a war was unpopular. Vietnam. And LBJ resigned over it. Hell korea affected truman.

Yup, and the wars and the draft went on. Don't kid yourself, long term wars are never popular.

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Gunslinger, I hope that was you posting just for the sake of posting.

Otherwise, that truly was you being dumb.
-SW

[StabbyTheIcePic]

Originally posted by Gyro/T69
Yup, and the wars and the draft went on. Don't kid yourself, long term wars are never popular.

And the presidents that start them are voted out, and the drafts end. That is why i said it is political suicide.

[BUG_EAF322]

A drafted army is not stupid at all.
Its got more self critizm and less lowend people who can't do other things.

Like those stupid fkups that torture and photograph  pows.  It's big stupidity.

I never learned that in the army i was always learned the geneve conventions.

A drafted soldier with some selfesteem already would throw this out to the media long before it's released now.


A good example is the dutch army in sebrenica they where not drafted they where "proffesional" Yes sarge no sarge i jump sarge.


befehl is befehl

[Gyro/T69]

And the presidents that start them are voted out, and the drafts end. That is why i said it is political suicide.

Truman started the Korean war? Hmmm didn't know that. Where'd you hear that.

No draft after the Korean war? You sure?

LBJ started nam? Think he inherited that one.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Gunslinger, I hope that was you posting just for the sake of posting.

Otherwise, that truly was you being dumb.
-SW

I think I answered your question allready

I know I'm being dumb....I didnt have anything of real importance to ad so I just threw that in there.