Author Topic: P-51D Loadouts (Read 1601 times)

Cobra412 · « **on:** May 26, 2004, 05:21:33 PM »

I'm curious because alot of things I've read state the Pony is only capable of 2000lbs of bombs or 8 x HVAR rockets on zero length launchers.

The B model according to my book can only carry 2000lbs of bombs or M10 triple-tube rockets on the wing racks.

Is this infact true? Also if it isn't is there any photos out there with a full loadout(bombs and rockets)?

Rafe35 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 26, 2004, 06:25:53 PM »

P-51B

Empty: 6,840 lb :: 3,102.57 kg
Loaded: 11,200 lb :: 5,080.23 kg

P-51D

Empty: 7,125lb :: 3,231.85 kg
Loaded: 11,600lb :: 5,261.67 kg

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I don't know if that true or not, but that all I found and F-51D (Korean War) could add more loaded.

Rafe

Cobra412 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 26, 2004, 07:45:46 PM »

Actually what I meant is in the current AH we have the ability to loadout with bombs and rockets at the same time. I haven't found anywhere that allows this as a loadout. It says one or the other not both.

bozon · « **Reply #3 on:** May 27, 2004, 08:50:00 AM »

the P47 can load 10 rockets AND two bombs on the wings.
I don't think that's historical either.

Bozon

Rafe35 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 27, 2004, 08:56:18 AM »

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Originally posted by bozon
the P47 can load 10 rockets AND two bombs on the wings.
I don't think that's historical either.

Bozon

That can be true that P-47 can carry two three-tube M10 wing rocket launchers, but i think that go for P-47N and P-47D carry four or eight HVAR on underwing launchers.

Rafe

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 27, 2004, 09:25:22 AM »

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Originally posted by bozon
the P47 can load 10 rockets AND two bombs on the wings.
I don't think that's historical either.
Bozon

I recall reading that land-based corsairs could carry up to 4k of ord...now, I can't remember if it was Korea or WW2 and if it had RATO or not....

Rafe35 · « **Reply #6 on:** May 27, 2004, 03:14:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Red Tail 444
I recall reading that land-based corsairs could carry up to 4k of ord...now, I can't remember if it was Korea or WW2 and if it had RATO or not....

Vought F4U-4B/-C Corsair

four 20-mm cannons plus
eight 5 inch rockets under
wings or up to 4,000 lb on centerline and pylon racks
Naplam

Vought F4U-5/-5N/-5NL Corsair

Four 20-mm cannons
Ten 5-inch rockets under wings or
up to 5000 lb on centerline and pylon racks.
Naplam

Vought F4U-6/AU-1 Corsair "Ground Supporter"

Four 20-mm cannons
Ten 5-inch rockets under wings or
up to 3000 lb on centerline and pylon racks.
Naplam

That pretty much for a fighter can carry nearly 6000 Ib bomb.

Rafe

F4UDOA · « **Reply #7 on:** May 27, 2004, 03:21:00 PM »

Rafe,

I have a couple of references that show the F4U-1 taking off in excess of 17,000LBS in combat which puts the load to 5,000LBS. Not annecdotal stuff either but POH and manufacture reference.

Also the AU-1 had a 6k capacity.

OntosMk1 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 27, 2004, 03:53:04 PM »

But he's asking about Ponies ya bunch of thread hijackers;)

I've got pics of B/C ponies with 500lbers and m10 system. Soon as I get to a flatbed scanner I'll postem

Widewing · « **Reply #9 on:** May 27, 2004, 06:23:49 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by bozon
the P47 can load 10 rockets AND two bombs on the wings.
I don't think that's historical either.

Bozon

It's historical......

My regards,

Widewing

Blammo · « **Reply #10 on:** May 27, 2004, 07:48:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Widewing
It's historical......

My regards,

Widewing

Now that's a beautiful plane!

bozon · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2004, 05:34:47 AM »

Thank you Widewing

that IS a beauty.

Bozon

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2004, 11:23:34 AM »

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Originally posted by OntosMk1
But he's asking about Ponies ya bunch of thread hijackers;)

Sowweee ....

Guppy35 · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2004, 11:52:25 AM »

Lots of photos of Korean era F51Ds with both bombs and rockets, or napalm and rockets.

I can post a photo of an Iwo Jima based 78th FS P51D with two 160 gallon P38 wing tanks and a full load of rockets too.

I think you didn't see the full load out in WW2 because of the need to carry drop tanks, as well as I don't believe the zero length rocket rails were installed on any ETO based 51s but were limited to the tail end of the war in the Pacific. Obviously to get to Japan they needed the drop tanks so carrying both bombs and rockets would have prevented that. Clearly they could handle the weight of the loadout though if they were lugging P38 drop tanks and rockets.

Top image is of a 1950, Korean era 51D with the full load out. There are a bunch of images like this in the Schiffer Published book "Mustangs over Korea".

Bottom image is a 78th FS, 15th FG P51D on Iwo Jima in the summer of 45 with P38 wing tanks and rockets.

Dan/Slack

Urchin · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2004, 12:53:39 PM »

Widewing, it isn't accurate on the P-47D, as far as I know.

Hell, the P-47D-35 was the first to have the zero length rockets AFAIK. But just because the P-47N could carry 2,500 lbs of bombs and 10 rockets doesn't mean the P-47D could. The P-47N had a completely different wing.