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Offline Steve

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« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2004, 01:11:00 AM »
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I challenge you to find a quote of Bush saying that throughout the discussion period in the UN.


Bush on Husseins regime, before we invaded Iraq.

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Anything they choose will be better than the misery and torture and murder they have known under Saddam Hussein.


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He(sic) tortures his own people. He's a murderer



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I'm convinced that a liberated Iraq will be -- will be important for that troubled part of the world.


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We care about the suffering of the Iraqi people.


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The first to benefit from a free Iraq would be the Iraqi people, themselves. Today they live in scarcity and fear, under a dictator who has brought them nothing but war, and misery, and torture. Their lives and their freedom matter little to Saddam Hussein -- but Iraqi lives and freedom matter greatly to u
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« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2004, 01:13:10 AM »
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Drediock, if I have to spell that statement out - kindly step away from the keyboard and this thread.

"Unless we find they never existed"

Clearly that indicates we FOUND evidence they never existed.
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« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2004, 01:13:49 AM »
Thank you Sandman.  The difference here is that Hussein was directly or indirectly allowing/supporting terrosit camps.  It appears by that article that the Saudi Govt was taking steps to stamp out the camps.
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« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2004, 01:17:50 AM »
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Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.
George W. Bush
September 12, 2002


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Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.
George W. Bush
January 28, 2003


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We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.
George W. Bush
February 8, 2003


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Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.
George W. Bush
March 17, 2003


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Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.
Dick Cheney
August 26, 2002


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We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.
Colin Powell
February 5, 2003
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« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2004, 01:20:00 AM »
Sand, forgive my dull mind tonight, what was the point of your last post?
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« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2004, 01:20:58 AM »
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If the mission was to eliminate their WMD, it's not accomplished.

Unless you think maybe we should invade Fiji and eliminate theirs too.

If it was to eliminate SH, that we did. But that's not why we ostensibly went, correct?



Bush said, and I quote, "If you support, train, harbor, pay for, supply, or provide aide comfort and succor for terrorism, you are a candidate for regime change". Notice there was nothing vahue or ambiguous about that statement. Notice that he DID NOT say that in order to qualify for regime change you had to possess weapons of mass destruction.

Saddam Hussien harbored terrorists from Abu Nidal on down to the lowest level operatives. Saddam Hussien did in fact pay $25K to the families of suicide bomers in Israel. There were in fact terrorists, and high ranking ones in fact, who were known to have participated in about 90% of the top 100 largest and most notorious acts of terrorism, in Iraq at the time the invasion was launched. There is a laundry list of known major league terrorists captured in Iraq in the last 14 months that I have posted here at least a dozen times. Of particular note, terrorists known to have taken part in the Achille Lauro incident and the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 have in fact been captured in Iraq. That's just two major incidents that at least some of the organizers and perpetrators of have been captured in Iraq. Lest we forget, on public television broadcast all over the planet, Saddam offered $25K to the family of any terrorists willing to blow himself up to kill Americans or Israeli Jews. It is a matter of public record he paid off on the killing by suicide bomb of Israeli Jews.

Regarding the Weapons of Mass Distraction, the lead up and build up to the invasion lasted damned near 2 full years, because Bush tried to get co operation from any number of countries and the United Numbnuts. Saddam had plenty of time to do whatever he wanted to with them. And yet, illegal long range missiles were found, in numbers, in Iraq. With warhead cases designed to deliver chemical and bilogoical weapons. There have been at least ten incidents of chemical weapons being found in small quantities.
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« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2004, 01:22:06 AM »
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If you give the rattlesnake room to retreat, it will. It's more afraid of you than you are of it.


LOL I have a buddy that might argue that point with you.

He tried that with one and it ended up chasing him.

But with Saddam even though he may back down publically I doubt very much it would have stopped him form attacking  covertly.

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« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2004, 01:23:54 AM »
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Sand, forgive my dull mind tonight, what was the point of your last post?


WMD. ;)
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« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2004, 01:25:53 AM »
Well, certainly WMD was a major reason we went in.

Are you saying that since we didn't find much in the way of WMD that Hussein didn't possess any?
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« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2004, 01:25:54 AM »
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There was alot of Democrats that pretty much were saying the same thing during the Clinton administration including clinton himself

sombody put a post of it up once a while back
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« Reply #85 on: June 10, 2004, 01:28:53 AM »
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Well, certainly WMD was a major reason we went in.

Are you saying that since we didn't find much in the way of WMD that Hussein didn't possess any?


It certainly doesn't appear so.
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« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2004, 01:29:24 AM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
There was alot of Democrats that pretty much were saying the same thing during the Clinton administration including clinton himself

sombody put a post of it up once a while back


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« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2004, 01:29:40 AM »
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If you give the rattlesnake room to retreat, it will. It's more afraid of you than you are of it.


A rattlesnake has no inherent malice or evil intent, no real intelligence.

If you imbue a rattlesnake with intelligence and the desire to do you harm, I bet you just might wake up one night w/ this same snake having embedded its fangs into one of your testicles.

If you knew the rattler had the intelligence and desire to do you harm, would you not put a shovel to it?
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« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2004, 01:30:47 AM »
I think Spiderman can beat the hell out of Batman. :D
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« Reply #89 on: June 10, 2004, 01:30:55 AM »
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It certainly doesn't appear so.


Would you consider that he might have hidden/buried what he had?  Shipped it to Syria?
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