could we have theses please? preety please

[68DevilM]

[Jackal1]

Sure. I can print those pics up for you for a small nominal fee plus shipping.

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[68DevilM]

hardy har;)

[Morpheus]

Why are there no American Tanks in AH anyways?

We have the best of the best of the best as far as planes go.

A new tank would be fun IMO. I like to GV once a month or so.

[TheflyingElk]

Is that the Tank Destroyer  model that Audie Murphy  was serving on when he won the CMH while defending a crossroads?

[Rafe35]

Originally posted by TheflyingElk
Is that the Tank Destroyer that Audie Murphy won the CMH while defending a crossroads?

Nah, I think Audie was on damage Sherman Tank while firing M2 .50 against German troops.

- To Hell and Back

[TheflyingElk]

That was hollywood I was talking real world, I think Murphy was defending a crossroads while sitting in Armored car or a Tank destroyer for 1-2 days when he was recommended for the CMH;)

[simshell]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Why are there no American Tanks in AH anyways?

We have the best of the best of the best as far as planes go.

A new tank would be fun IMO. I like to GV once a month or so.

because the main tank used by the US was so outclassed by the panzer that it would be a turkey shoot for the guy with the panzer not counting what the planes could do to the Sherman

that tank in the pic would have to be perked like the tiger is perked maybe less if its inferior

[Edbert]

The Tank in the picture (actually a "tank killer") was  a match (or more) for the PzKfw-IV but could not stand toe to toe with the Tiger-I. The problem with the US tank killer designs in AH is that they were open topped. This was not a big issue with near total allied control of the air in Europe after D-Day but in AH these things could be wiped out by a 202.

[Hades55]

Originally posted by MoRphEuS
Why are there no American Tanks in AH anyways?

Ill put it straight. American tanks was scrap, trash.
The tremendus losses american crews had its still not well known,
its a shame & crime lost & hidden under the glory of the victory.
Some had to go to prison for their wrong choises, but they was
saved under the  brilliant lights of the victory.

[Pei]

Originally posted by Edbert MOL
The Tank in the picture (actually a "tank killer") was  a match (or more) for the PzKfw-IV but could not stand toe to toe with the Tiger-I. The problem with the US tank killer designs in AH is that they were open topped. This was not a big issue with near total allied control of the air in Europe after D-Day but in AH these things could be wiped out by a 202.

Not quite true IIRC: they were enclosed but they had no roof armour (i.e. the top was just metal sheeting not armour).

The US tank destroyers were quick, manueverable and well gunned but were generally lightly armoured.

I think one of the upgunned Shermans would be a better choice, with an M26 as a perk vehicle.

[Pei]

Originally posted by Edbert MOL
The Tank in the picture (actually a "tank killer") was  a match (or more) for the PzKfw-IV but could not stand toe to toe with the Tiger-I. The problem with the US tank killer designs in AH is that they were open topped. This was not a big issue with near total allied control of the air in Europe after D-Day but in AH these things could be wiped out by a 202.

Not quite true IIRC: they were enclosed but they had no roof armour (i.e. the top was just metal sheeting not armour).

The US tank destroyers were quick, manueverable and well gunned but were generally lightly armoured.

I think one of the upgunned Shermans would be a better choices, with an M26 as a perk vehicle.

[Octavius]

M18 Hellcat - hell yeah.  These things just *look* cool.  I would love to do a little shoot n scoot with the new terrain

[Morpheus]

because the main tank used by the US was so outclassed by the panzer that it would be a turkey shoot for the guy with the panzer not counting what the planes could do to the Sherman

Well we aren't (at least I am not) talking about real life here. If you die you get a new tank and a new life.

How well does an M8 do against a Panzer going head to head with it? Not well at all. but we still have them and they are still FUN and allow for a different "venue" in terms of GVing.

I am POSITIVE HiTech & Co. can find a suitable American Tank to add to the set.

Lastly, I am American. I fly mostly american planes. Call it a 'sentimental' thing I guess. That would be the only way I would put it. Its just like Taki and his squad choose to fly all Japanese planes for the most part. I am sure they do it for some of the same reasons I do. For that reason, good or not, I would like to have an American Tank. I honestly think its a bit odd we do not already have one that can go head to head in the game with a panzer or at least stand a fighting chance against it.

[Widewing]

Top one is the M-18 Hellcat, the best TD of the war, bar none. 65 mph road speed, 76mm shooting HVAP ammo. German tankers feared this little monster more than the Sherman Firefly. There are stories of these thing tearing through gaggles of Panthers like mad dogs. Impossible to track once they start their dash, it had a stabilized gun and gained many kills while racing flat-out cross country.

Lower vehicle is the M-36 Jackson. Basically a seriously up-gunned M-10. It's 90mm could kill anything it encountered.

Both were used from ambush to great success. The Hellcats used "shoot and scoot" tactics to perfection. Of all allied armored vehicles deployed to the ETO, the Hellcat had the best kill to loss percentage prior to the M-26 showing up in 1945. I read the memiors of an M-18 gunner, who described the TDs ability to maneuver behind a Jagd Panther thru sheer speed, pumping a HVAP round into it rear before the German crew could figure out where it had disappeared to.

Having thin armor, the Hellcat would never fight a straight up duel. Instead, they simply raced around the enemy and "hit him where he wasn't".

For all its success in the war, I don't see it being used as intended should HTC include it. Most guys haven't the patience to sit in ambush. Both it and the M-36 would be terrific spawn campers tho. And with the Hellcat's speed, it would very hard to hit, even over open ground. However, if HTC models its stabilized gun, it would be deadly, even at full speed.

My regards,

Widewing