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Offline SMERSH

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How do you take out the ack with a fighter?
« on: October 17, 1999, 11:38:00 AM »
In the current build, those acks are incredibly accurate. The only recourse seems to be to go to 25k with a B17 so you're out of the range of acks.

Has anyone developed a system of taking out the acks with a ***fighter*** (either using rockets or bombs), that actually works more often than not? So far, I've had very limited success doing this in the current build.

I've tried dive bombing (I know I'm not good at this yet) it's hard to be precise during the dive spinning all over the place, and throttled back, but still black out, often reach altitude range of ack and get fried.

Rockets seem to miss most of the time regardless of angle... I'm not even sure what the range/trajectory of the rockets are supposed to be, so at what range to fire rockets - even hard to tell what range you are from the ack, no range number given like for other aircraft in the sky.

Now straffing will be a joke, the multiple ack will chew through your airframe many times over before you get a realistic chance of straffing them.

And one more thing, the ack sites are so incredibley small, the only way to know it's an ack site is when they open fire and you see the tracers!!  

All ideas/ suggestions (that you've actually successfully tried) are welcome (remember I'm talking about how you use ***fighters*** not bombers to take out the ack).


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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 1999, 11:55:00 AM »
Based on my numerous failures it CAN'T BE DONE. I have asked every time online if someone has done it and no one has stepped forward. The acks are far too accurate and have fantastic range as well  

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 1999, 01:08:00 PM »
I have single handely taken over bases.

All you have to do is jump into the nearest phone booth and don your handy Superman costume and your all set.  

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Offline indian

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 1999, 01:47:00 PM »
The ack are setup this way to prevent vulching. Bombers can take them out.

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How do you take out the ack with a fighter?
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 1999, 02:45:00 PM »
We need some of these!  
   

This is a test installation of 50mm BK 5 gun fitted in a Me 262A-1a. It was test-fired at Lechfeld in 1944. The production designation for this aircraft was the Me 262A-1/U4 (Pulkzerstorer).


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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 1999, 07:02:00 PM »
Good Lord,
Question,
Is it recoiless?
  If not how did the airframe take the shock.
  If so where did the backblast go.

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Offline SMERSH

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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 1999, 07:08:00 PM »
It looks like it mistakenly crossed production lines over from the aircraft manufacturing plant to the tank manufacturing plant :P

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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 1999, 09:44:00 PM »
He he he.  Recoil?

Boom... woah! Lost some speed!

Boom... woah! Nearly stalled!

Boom... auuughhhh. [Spin and auger]

 

Offline Wardog

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 1999, 01:06:00 AM »
Me410 had the same setup..

Only has 20 rounds  

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Offline Curly

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« Reply #9 on: October 18, 1999, 07:41:00 AM »


 Good Cod awmighty.

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 1999, 11:11:00 AM »
Kinda like today's A10 Warthogs...

Heard stories that you have to up the throttle when you fire that gun to keep the speed up .. it's like having retro-rockets.

Footage of that gun is ... well, scary.

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Offline indian

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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 1999, 11:34:00 AM »
WLVN Ive seen the A10 shoot and heard pilots say it falls if shot to long.

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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 1999, 12:04:00 PM »
I have killed ack straffing.
I trip, 1 death, one ack retired.

Approached from angle so that only 1 would lite up as I approached,, straffed it to death, and the other two got me..

never tried again.. (some lessons I learn FAST!!!)

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Offline Sascha JG 77

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« Reply #13 on: October 18, 1999, 12:11:00 PM »
This gun was meant to be fired at bombers, not ground targets.
I dunno if that Me 262 ever made it to operational status but I know that the Me 410  did carry the 50mm cannon in combat. From what I read the Me 410 had a bomb bay, which could be used for several purposes other than carrying eggs. One purpose was to house this huge gun. The plan was for the 410 pilot to setup shots well outta range of the bomber's defensive gunners and lob 50mm shells into the forts. The only problem was that the Me 410 had to fly straight and level to set up the shot. By the time it was used in combat most buffs were escorted by Ponies and Jugs which found 50mm equipped Me 410 fairly easy game, especially if they didn t maneuver.

In a Me 262 however the design might have been feasible. The advantage of the 50mm cannon was not so much firepower (4x30mm will kill a bomber very quickly) but its extended range.


Very nice gun, really  

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How do you take out the ack with a fighter?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 1999, 12:30:00 PM »
Didnt the Mosquito have a variant with a 57mm cannon in the nose for anti shipping?

Pretty mean gun as I recal