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Offline Nash

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« Reply #60 on: July 08, 2004, 08:08:01 PM »
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would you go fight a 3rd world country because Martin said so....


Absolutely not, no... and I'd never put myself at the mercy of those kinds of stupid decisions by volunteering.

But if a war came about that threatened my country for example, such as say another WWII, for sure I'd sign up.

There wasn't a draft for WWII... There emerged a war wot made people crawl all over themsleves to try and help. It's the best vote of confidence for war I can think of.

When already enlisted men crawl all over themselves to get OUT of the army... well, it's time to re-examine the cause.
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« Reply #61 on: July 08, 2004, 08:08:53 PM »
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There wasn't a draft for WWII... There emerged a war wot made people crawl all over themsleves to try and help. It's the best vote of confidence for war I can think of.

When already enlisted men crawl all over themselves to get OUT of the army... well, it's time to re-examine the cause.


TRUTH!
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« Reply #62 on: July 08, 2004, 08:09:32 PM »
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Well, that's pretty much the case.  They aren't allowed to come back into the country, unless they'd like to go to prison.  If there was no punishment, then what would ever keep them from coming back?


What I'm saying is not even allow them to come back, do some time, then continue on with their lives. Just stop them at the border and tellem life as you knew it is over. You are never, ever, coming back here in any way shape or form.
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« Reply #63 on: July 08, 2004, 08:09:59 PM »
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Absolutely not, no... and I'd never put myself at the mercy of those kinds of stupid decisions by volunteering.

But if a war came about that threatened my country for example, such as say another WWII, for sure I'd sign up.

There wasn't a draft for WWII... There emerged a war wot made people crawl all over themsleves to try and help. It's the best vote of confidence for war I can think of.

When already enlisted men crawl all over themselves to get OUT of the army... well, it's time to re-examine the cause.


Yeah there were no soldiers AWOL in WW2.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #64 on: July 08, 2004, 08:12:14 PM »
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There wasn't a draft for WWII...


Maybe not in Northern Mexico, but there was a draft here.
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« Reply #65 on: July 08, 2004, 08:12:23 PM »
Ahh the rolleyes, instantly bringing validation to the argument.  Homo.

But seriously, do you think the percentage of deserters or dissenters is anywhere near the same between the WWII and the current war?
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« Reply #66 on: July 08, 2004, 08:12:34 PM »
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LOL Sanctions
Dubya's war ENDED the sanctions you doofus.
 


I am aware that the sanctions ended: just because the sanctions are now over does that negate that 100's of thousands in iraq died because of them? for what did all those kids die?

BTW: you have only now started to do the same thing against Syria, wtg!:aok
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« Reply #67 on: July 08, 2004, 08:14:39 PM »
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What I'm saying is not even allow them to come back, do some time, then continue on with their lives. Just stop them at the border and tellem life as you knew it is over. You are never, ever, coming back here in any way shape or form.

Oh, I see...and yeah, that'd be a pretty bad punishment as far as I'm concerned.  Although I think I'd choose that over incarceration for an extended period of time.
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« Reply #68 on: July 08, 2004, 08:14:52 PM »
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I am aware that the sanctions ended: just because the sanctions are now over does that negate that 100's of thousands in iraq died because of them? for what did all those kids die?

BTW: you have only now started to do the same thing against Syria, wtg!:aok


We were discussing the morality of the 2003 Iraq War.  If you want to discuss the morality of the sanctions that is something else entirely.
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« Reply #69 on: July 08, 2004, 08:15:08 PM »
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When already enlisted men crawl all over themselves to get OUT of the army... well, it's time to re-examine the cause.


there is still almost a million others NOT running to Canada nash.  I beleive in the cause but I really dont want to argue it in this thread.  Seriously....they kids are cowards....nothing more nothing less.


as far as AWOL goes.....this is more serious, this is desertion....possibly dessertion in the face of an enemy....and missing a movement.

Does it even occure to them that when their company ships out they will be short....that shortfall is going to have to be made up by the guys they left.  That means that an allready short handed group is going to have to work extra just to make up for them.  

Does our constitution allow for revocation of citizanship?  Just curious cause I like the idea of not letting them back into the country.
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« Reply #70 on: July 08, 2004, 08:15:16 PM »
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But is it too high a price to pay to stop a madman who has already killed hundreds of thousands?


do you have a link to support that claim?
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« Reply #71 on: July 08, 2004, 08:15:31 PM »
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Ahh the rolleyes, instantly bringing validation to the argument.  Homo.


*****, please.
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« Reply #72 on: July 08, 2004, 08:16:15 PM »
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Yeah there were no soldiers AWOL in WW2.  :rolleyes:


Of course there were.... But if you think the deserters, as compared to the volunteers who stuck it out even remotely resembles any sort of statistical significance on any level, I gotta wonder 'bout you... Yer just trying for points or something.
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« Reply #73 on: July 08, 2004, 08:17:29 PM »
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do you have a link to support that claim?


Well it's common knowledge, but here's a quick one.   http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat3.htm
 There is a lot of data out there.  Depending on whether you attribute the Iran-Iraq War, Gulf War I, and the UN sanctions to Saddam or not, you can end up in the millions.
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« Reply #74 on: July 08, 2004, 08:18:25 PM »
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Of course there were.... But if you think the deserters, as compared to the volunteers who stuck it out even remotely resembles any sort of statistical significance on any level, I gotta wonder 'bout you... Yer just trying for points or something.


You are the one who attempted to judge the justness of the war by the number of deserters.  I merely pointed out that you hadn't proved your point.
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