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Offline CurtissP-6EHawk

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« on: July 20, 2004, 05:56:11 PM »
A6M2 has 94 Kills of P-40B
P-40B has 27 Kills of A6M2

Need I say more? However, since the F4F-4 seems to be doing so well, its hard to justify enableing the  P-40E. BUt the again, it would represent what realy happened with the planes that were really there

A6M2 has 349 Kills of F4F-4
F4F-4 has 450 Kills of A6M2

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Re: P-40B vs A6M2 Stats
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2004, 06:23:29 PM »
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A6M2 has 349 Kills of F4F-4
F4F-4 has 450 Kills of A6M2
 
just killed you own begging thread.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2004, 06:41:06 PM »
I have 102 kills of A6M-2s with the Wildcat, to 9 deaths.

Remove my stats and the numbers are:

A6M2 has 340 Kills of F4F-4
F4F-4 has 348 Kills of A6M2

Pretty even.

Consider that most of the time the Japs have been outnumbered, and I’d say the Zero has put up one heck of a fight.  This is one scenario where the Allies truly need numbers to stand a chance.  Wildcat pilots in WWII basically said the same thing.

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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2004, 09:01:55 PM »
its hard to justify enableing the P-40E.


Other than it would be accurate.

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Re: Re: P-40B vs A6M2 Stats
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2004, 11:17:09 PM »
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just killed you own begging thread.

That is corrrect. Maybe the F4F-4 is better in AHII?

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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2004, 11:18:34 PM »
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I have 102 kills of A6M-2s with the Wildcat, to 9 deaths.

Remove my stats and the numbers are:

A6M2 has 340 Kills of F4F-4
F4F-4 has 348 Kills of A6M2

Pretty even.

Consider that most of the time the Japs have been outnumbered, and I’d say the Zero has put up one heck of a fight.  This is one scenario where the Allies truly need numbers to stand a chance.  Wildcat pilots in WWII basically said the same thing.

eskimo


I have 56 some odd vulches and 7 deaths vs A6M2 (14 is SBD) so maybe the F4F-4 sucks after all ?

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2004, 11:18:45 PM »
I believe the P-40E was around during the first battles of the war.. i.e. the Phillipines campaign and Pearl Harbour.. it certainly would have been around for any guadalcanal campaign.

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2004, 11:52:32 PM »
nah allies just gang bang any lone zero they seeim.  im sure of it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2004, 08:14:44 AM »
The p40e does not perform that much better than the b, but the guns would help.

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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2004, 11:05:35 AM »
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The p40e does not perform that much better than the b, but the guns would help.

Hmmm.  Reasonable minds might differ on this.  I think the E is a great plane, but the B is a deathtrap.

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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2004, 12:05:30 PM »
I'd love to find out how the planes fare against one another in AH2, Ki-61 vs P-40B/E and A6M2 vs F4F-4, but.......
Last night all the Wildkitties I saw were safely dancing about in the ever so friendly fleet ack, I never got the chance to engage even one of em without tracers from the fleet defences streaking all around me.  Lost engines to acks twice, never took even a ping from an enemy fighter til after my engine was knocked out.......
From what I did see, the P-40E would have been the better choice.  P-40B is not a total deathtrap, but too many times we look at top speed only and don't think about the fact that it takes that bird almost a whole sector to reach it in level flight acceleration.
Ki-61, IMHO, should be matched up against the P-40E, not the B.
A6M2 vs F4F-4.......nice matchup.....winner dependant on pilot skill and how the fight is set up.
Now that I am just a player again, maybe I can spend more time flying and having fun and exploring these matchups.........:aok

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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2004, 01:48:31 PM »
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Originally posted by eskimo2
I have 102 kills of A6M-2s with the Wildcat, to 9 deaths.

Remove my stats and the numbers are:

A6M2 has 340 Kills of F4F-4
F4F-4 has 348 Kills of A6M2

Pretty even.

Consider that most of the time the Japs have been outnumbered, and I’d say the Zero has put up one heck of a fight.  This is one scenario where the Allies truly need numbers to stand a chance.  Wildcat pilots in WWII basically said the same thing.

eskimo


You don't count because you do nothing but vultch, that is when you aren't milking all by yourself.

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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2004, 02:07:38 PM »
The Zeke is toast against U.S. iron.  Check the roster when there is a US/Jap planeset, it's always 2:1 in favor of U.S., because no one wants to be a target in the zeke.  That's why the Japs need the Ki-44, something that can BnZ with the U.S. birds.  And the Ki-84 for fighting late war U.S. birds.   In a zeke you're gonna die, it's just a question of when.

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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2004, 04:07:32 PM »
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A6M2 vs F4F-4.......nice matchup.....winner dependant on pilot skill and how the fight is set up.

Disagree.  In a co-alt one-on-one, the F4F is toast.  I've killed enough pilots who I KNOW are better than me, that this is now an article of faith.  As Eskimo pointed out (somewhere), Wildcats win when they have a numbers or altitude advantage, but not otherwise, and this is historical.  Actually, this is about the only setup when I think it's a good thing for the allies to have about a 1.5 to 1 numbers advantage.

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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2004, 04:13:01 PM »
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You don't count because you do nothing but vultch, that is when you aren't milking all by yourself.


Learn your terms.  Most of my kills were Cherry-Picks.  Less than 1/4 were vulches.

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