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Offline DipStick

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« Reply #105 on: July 25, 2004, 02:33:03 PM »
Most religions believe in a 'supreme being' of somekind. Allah is what they call Him, God is what I call him. As far as Jesus goes He is my savior. I believe anyone who does not accept Jesus as his Lord and Savior will perish.

I have nothing but pity for atheists, muslims, etc... as they are lost. I don't hate them, just feel sorry for them that they don't have a personal relationship with Christ.

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« Reply #106 on: July 25, 2004, 03:02:43 PM »
I kinda get a kick out of those who say Jesus was; a prophet, a teacher, or a wise man, (etc.) and that is all. I see this from many agnostics, from SOME Jews (many deny his very existence) and from most Muslims I talk to.

But Jesus claimed to be the ACTUAL son-of-god, immaculately conceived, sent to atone for the sins of the world, the savior and redeemer, the only doorway/path to heaven and salvation from hell, to have existed before the creation of the world, and to actually be God himself (as part of the trinity).

It seems simple to me; either he was right or he was wrong, and if wrong then obviously insane or at best a liar. If he was wrong he was not one of those things in my first paragraph, if he was right then he was also not one of those things in the first paragraph. There seems no middle ground here to me.

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« Reply #107 on: July 25, 2004, 03:58:13 PM »
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It seems simple to me; either he was right or he was wrong, and if wrong then obviously insane or at best a liar. If he was wrong he was not one of those things in my first paragraph, if he was right then he was also not one of those things in the first paragraph. There seems no middle ground here to me.


Simple?  Why not say he isn't either one?  It would have saved the Dog and Pony show.  :aok

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« Reply #108 on: July 25, 2004, 09:27:04 PM »
edburt mol...bet u know what a kings house number is.


  masherbrum....read last paragraph again I read it several times seems to make sense  kinda.

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« Reply #109 on: July 25, 2004, 09:30:52 PM »
dipstick......just a reply

 I would prefur your pity then their trying to cut my head off,or harming my country etc.

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« Reply #110 on: July 25, 2004, 09:43:40 PM »
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Staga [with respect] they do hate the jews and have for thousands of years.


Jews and Muslims lived quite peacefully together for over a thousand years - much more so than Christians and Jews did in Europe for example. The raw hatred that exists now began during the last century and is centred around the formation of the state of Isreal and is a comparitvely recent thing.
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« Reply #111 on: July 25, 2004, 09:52:52 PM »
Pei.....reply

   the muslims and jews as have most others live in some peace for a short time here and there,mostly when they couldnt do much about it either way.

  Pei it is not recent ya just cant deny written history and be honest about it..[not saying your dishonest] it goes back thousands of years even before mohammond invented islam to bring together waring arab tribes.

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« Reply #112 on: July 25, 2004, 10:11:26 PM »
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Pei.....reply

   the muslims and jews as have most others live in some peace for a short time here and there,mostly when they couldnt do much about it either way.

  Pei it is not recent ya just cant deny written history and be honest about it..[not saying your dishonest] it goes back thousands of years even before mohammond invented islam to bring together waring arab tribes.


Sorry but you are wrong.
Baghdad was the main centre of Jewish learning for millenia until the last century for example. Vritually all the main Islamic cities had large Jewish quarters. Jews served as financiers, dcotors and sometimes administrators in many Islamic courts. There are comparitivley few instances of direct physical conflict between Muslims and Jews until the last century. A quick glance thorugh any reputable history of the middle east will show you this. It suits extremists on both sides to paint the conflict as ongoing and violent since ancient times. The conflict exists in it's current bitter state because of a clash between Arab and Jewish nationalism, both of which have thier roots in the 19th centruy but didn't really become important until the 20th.  If your "written history" is telling you otherwise then I suggest you extend your reading matter.

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« Reply #113 on: July 25, 2004, 10:34:20 PM »
allah may be greatest but whats really important is can he hit a curve ball?

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« Reply #114 on: July 25, 2004, 10:43:02 PM »
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allah may be greatest but whats really important is can he hit a curve ball?


I don't know if He can hit one, but He certainly throws a few..