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Offline Shuckins

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« Reply #75 on: July 23, 2004, 10:58:35 PM »
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« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2004, 06:15:08 AM »
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Please tell me that you are saying this because you do not believe in God, and not because you think the Islamic faith is bogus...


Perhaps I should restate.  I do not believe in a higher power, muslim extremists are mentally ill.

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« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2004, 07:29:31 AM »
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Actually, yes I have, and am on book #3 on better understanding their culture.  The reason I am now reading so much about the subject is due ) and did not rise from the dead.  Where they differ is the whole issue of Mohammed, some Chistian scholars acknowledge his existence, as a prophet of sorts, and Islam sees him as the Savior.


A vey enlightning thread, I like the ones that make you think and look up references.

While I believe you are right about the origins of "Allah" I also think that today the nuslums will tell you that Allah is the one God
the same one in the bible.

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« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2004, 07:49:32 AM »
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A vey enlightning thread, I like the ones that make you think and look up references.

While I believe you are right about the origins of "Allah" I also think that today the nuslums will tell you that Allah is the one God
the same one in the bible.


You mean the same muslims that say that you go to a celestial brothel for killing your fellow man?

Let's think things through here.

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« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2004, 08:49:34 AM »
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You mean the same muslims that say that you go to a celestial brothel for killing your fellow man?

Let's think things through here.


Do you differentiate muslums from muslum radicals?
Or are all muslums the same to you?

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« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2004, 09:22:09 AM »
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Do you differentiate muslums from muslum radicals?
Or are all muslums the same to you?


Which ever ones adhere to the five pillars of the faith.

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« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2004, 09:38:12 AM »
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To the muslim any one that does not believe in allah is an infidel worthy only of death,man woman and child.

 


An amazingly sweeping generalization. Do you really believe that every Muslim in the world is out to get you?

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« Reply #82 on: July 24, 2004, 09:43:24 AM »
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An amazingly sweeping generalization. Do you really believe that every Muslim in the world is out to get you?


The muslims that are culturally muslim as some of my neighbors are, do not represent any more of a threat than a catholic does.  The ones that adhere to the tenets of that are a problem.

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« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2004, 09:54:43 AM »
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Originally posted by storch
The muslims that are culturally muslim as some of my neighbors are, do not represent any more of a threat than a catholic does.  The ones that adhere to the tenets of that are a problem.


My experience has been different; I have met  Muslims who were both devout and moderate.  My view is that many people interpret their faith in way that's suites their prejudices - I see the the prejudices as the major problem, not the faith itself.

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« Reply #84 on: July 24, 2004, 10:40:09 AM »
Anno Domini ? I know him.... I played in a band with this cat...He was soooooo kewl, could make the guitar sing. Then he got hung up on this time thing, wasn't the same since.....

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« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2004, 10:48:53 AM »
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My experience has been different; I have met  Muslims who were both devout and moderate.  My view is that many people interpret their faith in way that's suites their prejudices - I see the the prejudices as the major problem, not the faith itself.


what are the five pillars and how could they possibly be misinterpreted?  It seems very clear to me what mohammad intended and indeed practiced.

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« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2004, 12:55:14 PM »
Yeah, people who follow the five pillars must be evil.  :rolleyes:


-Faith or belief in the Oneness of God and the finality of the prophethood of Muhammad;

-Establishment of the daily prayers;
 
-Concern for and almsgiving to the needy;
 
-Self-purification through fasting; and
 
-The pilgrimage to Makkah for those who are able.



The carrying for needy one is really telling.  :aok

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« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2004, 01:08:14 PM »
Guess Storch has his own translation of the Koran, printed in same press with those (in)famous ballots so some small misconceptions are possible when reading it :)

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« Reply #88 on: July 24, 2004, 01:35:40 PM »
Since that time, the hatred of the Jews as the money-lenders or "userer" of Europe and the "murderers" of Christ has ebbed, slowly but surely. Many Protestants and Catholics are now re-embracing their Jewish roots and publicly recognizing the relationship between the two faiths.

Islam has gone through no such transformation.
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« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2004, 01:56:38 PM »
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Maybe I'm too sheltered, but I thought this sort of ignorance was long in our past.  Obviously I need to get out more.


Only if your mommy will let you.