More Gun control???

[lazs2]

nothing wrong with practicing to kill people or practicing to kill animals or practicing to defend yourself or practicing to make smaller groups to win tournements or learn how to make better ammo.

Killing people that don't need to be is wrong.   robbing people is wrong.  Using a gun to commit crimes is wrong.

using guns to defend yourself or others is right.   owning and shooting guns is neither right nor wrong.   Owning and carrying guns is a service to fellow citizens.

Anything I left out?  

lazs

[Terror]

Originally posted by B17Skull12
Nevar? how bout when the brake fails?

The safety of the vehicle is the responsibility of the driver and/or owner.  If the brakes fail, it is not the cars fault, it is the drivers fault for not keeping the car maintained.

Terror

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by demaw1
Beetle......overkill.......

    Lots of overkill there beetle , and think of the cost of all that ammo, I am going broke just thinking about it.

    Heres one for you he he.....You just step from your car at the mall. All the sudden 4 terrorist stationed here and there open up with ak's. You go to your trunk to get what?

   1. tire iron.
   
 2. m 16 with 3 clips.
   
 3 bow and arrows

4. hide under car and call 911.


   Dont say cant happen,that would be dumb even for a liberal....not saying you are.

You have terrorists stationed at your malls????

[TalonX]

I heard it on TV...   The guy says, if you can blame shooting deaths on guns, then you can blame typos on pencils.

(This is a great line).


Many things; guns, cars, knives, lawn mowers, insecticide sprayers, etc, can be dangerous in the wrong hands, or untrained hands.

Don't blame the gun, blame the idiots "fiddling" with one.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by TalonX
Many things; guns, cars, knives, lawn mowers, insecticide sprayers, etc, can be dangerous in the wrong hands, or untrained hands.

Don't blame the gun, blame the idiots "fiddling" with one.

Many governments take the view that articles such as cars, knives, lawn mowers, insecticide sprayers, etc. can indeed be dangerous in the wrong hands, but also take the view that such devices have a legitimate primary use, and are likely to be used by people who are not part of any criminal fraternity. A gun, on the other hand, is designed to kill, and is one of the tools of the trade for the modern criminal.

Yes, a gun can be a very dangerous thing in the hands of an idiot, and clearly guns and idiots must be kept apart. We cannot legislate against idiots. So we do the next best thing. We legislate against guns.

[demaw1]

Ok here we go again..never got an answer . Maybe one of you who want to ban guns will answer.

    Right after hitler took control of germany, the very first thing he did was to remove all guns from the hands of citizens.


    How much do you think the Jews and others, would have given, to have access to weapons as we did in the 1930s

    After vietnam fell,1 of the first dominos  to fall was cambodia.
How much do you think the 3 million cambodians, that were killed by the commies, would have given, to have access to weapons, as we did in the 70s.?

[beet1e]

Demaw - this has all been covered in earlier gun threads c2002. Use the search button feature.

[Otto]

Demaw,

 What you are saying doesn't matter to a Liberal.  For Liberal's Gun Control is a 'feel good'.  It doesn't matter that the majority of humans killed in the 20th Century came at the hands of their own Government.   That the Jews could have defended themselves in Germany, or that the 100 million people murdered by the Communists in the last century may have had a chance. Nothing is as important as the 'Feel Good' and the Government (their government) making you feel it.  

When you understand that, you understand a great deal about 'Gun Control' in the USA.

[B17Skull12]

there is no possible way to have stop hitler and his forces.  in the end it would have just cost more civilian lives.

[Otto]

Originally posted by B17Skull12
there is no possible way to have stop hitler and his forces.  in the end it would have just cost more civilian lives than needed.

Exactly how many were 'needed'..?

[B17Skull12]

doh wrong spelling.

[Otto]

Originally posted by B17Skull12

doh wrong spelling.

I understand, but I couldn't resist...   sorry..

[Terror]

Originally posted by B17Skull12
there is no possible way to have stop hitler and his forces.  in the end it would have just cost more civilian lives.

So you think that if the Jews could have fought back with their own firearms that MORE than 6 MILLION Jewish civilians would have died?  For some reason I don't think that would work out.  Even if 1 Jew in 10 killed a German soldier, that would have reduced the German army by 600,000 soldiers.  I think that would have put a pretty good damper on Hitler's genocidal tendencies....

Terror

[Jasta]

I shot a gun at school 5 years ago. They taught us a hunter education course as part of Lousiana studies. My teacher spent 2 months going through everything we needed to get certified as a safe hunter, therefor being able to get a license.

EVERYONE had to take it... no options. They not only taught about hunting safety, but how to treat guns properly.

I grew up hunting with my father, and even though I really hated going out some days because of the cold, I learned a hell of a lot.. not just about guns, but about nature and the way things work in the world outside of work and school. Its an opportunity a lot of people dont have, and its a damned shame.

Guns teach us not to screw with things that can destroy us. They teach us the destructive power that one single person can have. But only a RESPONSIBLE PARENT/UNCLE/AUNT/GRANDPARENT/ can teach us how to use that power in ways that dont kill other people or ourselves, and they show us when and when not to use that power...

i.e. If someone makes fun of you at school, beat them up or pull their pants down, but dont bring a damn gun to school and kill them.

One single moment can change lives, especially around firearms.  Every time before I pull the trigger on a rifle/pistol, I think of where Im shooting, whats behind it, what Im shooting at, and lastly, do I even need/want to shoot?

If more parents taught their kids to look before they leap, there wouldn't be any serious opposition to firearms... and yes, it is that simple.

[Nashwan]

Even if 1 Jew in 10 killed a German soldier, that would have reduced the German army by 600,000 soldiers.

In 1940 the German army defeated the combined strength of the British, Belgian, Dutch and French armies, taking over 1,500,000 prisoners, for the loss of 27,000 men.

And you expect civilians to achieve a 1 in 10 kill ratio?

Not in the modern world. Modern militaries have weapons that are too expensive for civilians to afford, require more training than civilians can afford, and require more support than civilians can organise.

Presumably Jewish civilians would have bought and equipped their own fighters, bombers, anti-tank guns, mortars, artillery, tanks etc, if only there hadn't been laws to prevent them?