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Offline Lazerus

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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2004, 08:43:54 PM »
I posted this in another thread, but it fits in here better I think. This is a chapter from the book thats coming out in a little over a week that focuses on Kerry's service in VN, written by those that served with him.

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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2004, 08:58:09 PM »
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I will not stop saying I've come to recognize the type of officer Kerry was by reading about his "exploits".

I've served with the exact same type and they are dangerous....not to the enemy but to themselves and the men in their charge.


Instantly recognizable.  I can think of three offhand from my own experiences...  :rolleyes:

Band of Brothers did a good job with this 'type' in David Schwimmer's character.

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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2004, 09:01:33 PM »
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I posted this in another thread, but it fits in here better I think. This is a chapter from the book thats coming out in a little over a week that focuses on Kerry's service in VN, written by those that served with him.


I'm not sure If I can read this book and not have my blood pressure skyrocket.  I'm on page 3 and allready angry

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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2004, 10:10:47 PM »
Always amazes me how some desperates try to label National Guardsmen as "draft dodgers".    Maybe you want to tell that to all the "draft dodgers" now serving in Iraq?

Anyone serving in the National Guard or Reserves is not a draft dodger.  They are members of the countries armed forces, and by joining those organizations, they knowingly accept that they very possibly will be called to fight in a war.

Now, if you go hide in England, attending Oxford, maybe the term draft dodgers might be closer to the truth.

Its a common tactic some use, though not really a good one, to try and deflect negative attention from someone like Kerry by trying to point at someone else.  It doesn't change the reality of the negative information about Kerry.

I hope and pray Kerry doesn't get elected, I don't think the Demos even have a clue how bad that might turn out.  He isn't a good person, he only cares about himself and his own goals and ambitions.  (kinda like Hillary)


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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2004, 10:41:00 PM »
>>1.) Since when does ANG service = dodging?


I stated Bush dodged Viet Nam by joining the ANG. Do you dispute that?

There are two block votes in this country and they are roughly equal. You have a group that would vote Republican even if Bush was the anti-Christ with 666 plastered on his forehead (the dittohead/dixiecrat/big bussiness/  crown). You have a group of Democrats that would vote Kerry if he was the same aberition(the Al Sharpton/Jane Fonda/Ted Kennedy/ anything freaky crowd).

Newsflash - you - Republican party voters, Democratic party voters, are NOT deciding this election. You are dead weight - tinsil on a tree.

The people who are deciding this election cross party lines, and actually question what the candidates have done. There is no way that smearing the service record of a Viet Nam vet is going to woo the fence sitters. Yes, the ditto heads are going to eat it up - "Yea you go Rush! You tell the commie bastards! That Kerry was a coward in Viet Nam!" Same way that those who try to paint Bush as a war monger is just going to appeal to the most radical left.

So have your fun, and shoot your fodder at each other. In November, you won't matter. People voting down party lines, stretching facts so they fit into some pinhole view, are sheep. Walk down the left sheep road or walk down the right sheep road. Chance are if you can't see ANYTHING positive in both candidates, you are not the people deciding the election. You are, however, very fluffy.

John McCain called the new Republican commercial smearing Kerry's service record, "disrespectful" and "dishonest."

>>"It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press.<<

If this idiotic strategy keeps up, 3 years from now a ghost writer will be stating in "George W's memoirs" how attacking Kerry's military record was a blunder that cost the election.

Let the dittoheads keep punching that ticket, and their will be a change - bank on it.

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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2004, 10:48:02 PM »
Tweetybird, you are so full of watermelon that  I bet you are not even from 'Nawlins.  Probably a Chalmette boy that spent a couple of years at Mcneese or something.

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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2004, 10:57:25 PM »
Da Parish??? Lol, don't think so. I have 32 teeth and running water, and more wheels on my car than my house.

Actually, thats a joke. I like Chalmette and yats and all of "dat."

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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2004, 11:01:33 PM »
I'm just jaking you.  I graduated from USL and lived at Canal and Canal for 3 years.  Most of my Fraternity brothers were West Bank or Chalmette boys.

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« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2004, 11:04:05 PM »
Kills me how small the world is sometimes - good to meet ya :D
I am on the West Bank btw - Algiers.

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« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2004, 11:06:56 PM »
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There is no way that smearing the service record of a Viet Nam vet is going to woo the fence sitters.


Ok here you go!  We are not "Smearing" anything.  There is a group of sailors that served with john kerry that is saying he is not fit to be commander in chief.  

This goes to character and leadership skills.  If he does not have these he should not be running the nation.  I think these guys have EVERY right to be heard.

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John McCain called the new Republican commercial smearing Kerry's service record, "disrespectful" and "dishonest."


NEWSFLASH  this is not a republican commercial.  The Bush campagn did not endorce the comercial.  If you actually read anything other than the words "kerry" in post you might see that....or even better watch the thing its linked allready in this thread.

This is not nearly as bad as the Moveon.org video comparing Bush to hitler.  Yea the DNC is in Soros's pocket and no one cares...that scares me.

These guys are vets just like John Kerry and the public needs to know what they have to say about this canidate.

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« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2004, 11:13:53 PM »
I lived over there for a year, crossed the HPL bridge twice a day.  I have always wanted to model that bridge in N scale trains.  I lived off Cardinal drive in Marrero, 4 bachelors in a rented house with a pool, fresh out of school and making money.  The parties were legion.

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2004, 11:15:26 PM »
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. bush flew fighter jets and had no choice what type.  


Just to clear one thing up. Especially at that time, you applied to the Guard unit to be hired. IF they hired you and sent you to UPT, you pretty much knew what your "end assignment" would be UNLESS the unit changed aircraft between the time you hired in and you graduated from pilot training.

In Bush's case, he applied to an F-102 unit; he knew he'd get F-102's IF he graduated from UPT and successfully completed the F-102 RTU program.
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« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2004, 11:18:15 PM »
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Just to clear one thing up. Especially at that time, you applied to the Guard unit to be hired. IF they hired you and sent you to UPT, you pretty much knew what your "end assignment" would be UNLESS the unit changed aircraft between the time you hired in and you graduated from pilot training.

In Bush's case, he applied to an F-102 unit; he knew he'd get F-102's IF he graduated from UPT and successfully completed the F-102 RTU program.


Does this change ANYTHING about what some sailors are saying about Kerry's service in nam?  Or the fact that he is using it as a major part of his camp.?

We cant argue on his service in the senate cause HE DIDNT DO ANYTHING IN THE SENATE

Toad not that this is aimed directly at you or anything just making a point.

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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2004, 11:21:23 PM »
Didn't say it did. Just correcting a misunderstanding.

I think the guys that denigrate Guard service........ anyone's Guard service........ are  _____________________________ __   .

I left that blank because I try real hard not to do obscenities and/or personal insults on a BBS.
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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2004, 11:29:14 PM »
>>4 bachelors in a rented house with a pool, fresh out of school and making money. The parties were legion.
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What difference a decade makes eh? I remember pulling 48 hours, Biloxi beach, Ship island, boats, John Cougar, Heart, The Shian Social club (ROCKED!). Now at 45, the more body parts I keep covered - the better :D - no - :(