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Offline Steve

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« on: August 09, 2004, 03:53:04 PM »
NAJAF, Iraq - As a radical Shiite cleric vowed Monday that his troops would fight to the death, U.S. Marines took back control of two Iraqi provinces from multinational forces after only 10 days because of the worsening security situation, the Polish military said.

ROFL  what a joke it would become.


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« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2004, 06:07:53 PM »
Poland pulled out and handed their sector over to the US.

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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2004, 06:10:52 PM »
My source says "multinational"
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2004, 07:45:25 PM »
aah now blaming the forces who trying to help you in Iraq,
because the situation there is more then f***** up ?

LOL good one!
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« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2004, 07:46:35 PM »
Sounds like Iraq just needs more Marines.

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« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2004, 07:50:06 PM »
Maybe we should have bought better allies.

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2004, 08:51:25 PM »
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aah now blaming the forces who trying to help you in Iraq,
because the situation there is more then f***** up ?

LOL good one!


Dont think I blamed anyone..just stated what I read.

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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2004, 12:28:21 AM »
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aah now blaming the forces who trying to help you in Iraq,


huh?

My point was that many people are clamoring for the UN to step into Iraq.  My example sites why I think the UN would be/is impotent.


Blaming??  huh?
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2004, 12:30:16 AM »
Steve, screw the UN, just log in the MA and fly dangit!

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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2004, 01:07:35 AM »
1) there isn't a single mention of UN in whole article.

2) US Command movies in and out of the sectors of Multinational division  as it sees fits. Somehow they figured ( rightly so ) that getting 10 soldiers from each country killed in street fighting, where they were invited to participate in "policing", would cause their withdrawal. Hence, they took back the position themselves.

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« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2004, 01:08:51 AM »
oh yeah, one more thing. Elections coming up soon, those guys are coming home..

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2004, 01:27:22 AM »
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My source says "multinational"


yes , poles lead in this sector and under polish commmand stay small forces of other nations

remember, we came there to support  US, not with UN

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2004, 02:45:27 AM »
Actually bringing in a UN could help... but if you ask me, it won't give you any progress over there.
UN won't be hunting down the fanatics. They are good for the "peacekeeping" missions, but to keep the peace you should have it first.

It's a good thing that US forces took controll over that provinces.
Look at the situation, Poles could send there our folks or some other poor guys from another countries. Because sending there others, would be pretty coward we would most likely had to go there ourselves, but then, our regular army it's not experienced and trained in this kind of street fights, so most likely we'd lost a lot of folks and the situation would get worse over there in the same time.
Then, it's a shame that none of our "special" forces is not supporting US there (or it is, but we don't know it, like heppened before) and  some of our regular forces are not a part of the operations. As much as i can understand lack or experience as a reason to move out, i can't see a reason to keep going in a novice mode all the time.

Sanding there our guys and being an officiall supported of the US should also mean that we are taking the responsibility for some part of it and we are not running home like a girls.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2004, 04:30:24 AM »
from our news:

George Casey made the decision about taking controll by US forces in those two provinces. It was caused by the fact, that Poles are there with a "stabilizing" mission that is not presume a offensive military actions.

Dunno what's the deal and how they agreed on things before... that is what i've heard in the news.

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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2004, 06:11:58 AM »
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there isn't a single mention of UN in whole article.



Who said there was?  The UN is a multinational force.  The poles were leading a multinational force. Hence the parallel.  I'll try to be more exact since you seem unable to reach apparently obvious conclusions without being dragged along.

They were not equipped/trained to deal with the escalating problem.... the same excuse the UN as a multinational force would use.....impotent.

Are you unaware if the UN's military disasters and incompetence?  If you like, when I am feeling ambitious, I'll give you some info.
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