Author Topic: XM-8 rifle and XM-307 MG News Report (Read 769 times)

Makarov9 · « **on:** August 10, 2004, 01:49:37 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,128512,00.html

You can see a video of the news report if you click on the "Video" tab. Only works with IE.

I knew about the XM-8 rifle but I didn't know about the XM-307 and XM-312 MG they briefly talk about.

I like how the Fox reporter lets a few rounds rip at the end. Something you would never see a CNN reporter do.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #1 on:** August 10, 2004, 02:27:58 PM »

You arent kidding..

New .50 cal...

New 40mm grenade MG..

Nilsen · « **Reply #2 on:** August 10, 2004, 02:36:53 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
I guess now that the Nintendo generation becomes recruitment material, the army needs its toys to look the business.

yeah, i wouldnt be seen dead infront of that ugly thing!

Makarov9 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 10, 2004, 03:17:54 PM »

*BEEOOOOOOIIIEEEE*

*BLAM*

Suck it demons!

J_A_B · « **Reply #4 on:** August 10, 2004, 04:02:27 PM »

Doesn't the new rifle still use the crappy .223 cartridge?

I'd rather have an M-14

J_A_B

Charon · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2004, 05:11:57 PM »

You could keep the old systems and spend the money on training and retention and get twice the bang for the buck. But Joe grunt doesn't have a lobby working hard in Washington to buy new weapons systems whether they are needed or not. WTF is wrong with the M-2?

And of course... We were kicking bellybutton until the batteries died...Game over man!

Charon

Pongo · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2004, 05:17:56 PM »

Are we so sure those are just an m2 and an m19 wrapped up in pretty plastic? or are they new weapons?

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2004, 05:28:51 PM »

The 50 cal is an all new design ..

http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg39-e.htm

Hawklore · « **Reply #8 on:** August 10, 2004, 05:38:09 PM »

Speakers on the Ammo can of .50 cal!

Gunslinger · « **Reply #9 on:** August 10, 2004, 05:54:13 PM »

XM-8 sounds like a good rifle.

20% lighter and more durable.

The only concern I would have is if it reacts the same way to getting dirty as the M-16 does.

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 10, 2004, 05:57:31 PM »

Sounds like it is well worth the tax payers money.

Jeez a 50 cal that has a Rate of fire of 260 rpm?

I wonder how much more this "light" heavy machine gun cost per unit over the old M2?

VOR · « **Reply #11 on:** August 10, 2004, 06:07:42 PM »

We've had the same basic .50 machine gun for how long? Wasn't the original design built at the end of WW1? Wow. Ya know, if something works, why bugger with it?

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 10, 2004, 06:12:10 PM »

Vor
Exactly!

Charon · « **Reply #13 on:** August 10, 2004, 07:16:32 PM »

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Wow. Ya know, if something works, why bugger with it?

Gives the guys in the pentagon something to do and somewhere to go get contractor cash once they retire. Maybe setting headspace and timing just got too tough or something.

Those new guns look Ricer man! All that's missing is the fart can option

I'm a big fan of digital technologies at some levels, but not really at the infantry weapon level where soldier training, reliablity, ergonomics and good conventional killing power are more important (IMO).

Charon

Gunslinger · « **Reply #14 on:** August 10, 2004, 07:21:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
Gives the guys in the pentagon something to do and somewhere to go get contractor cash once they retire. Maybe setting headspace and timing just got too tough or something.

Those new guns look Ricer man! All that's missing is the fart can option I'm a big fan of digital technologies at some levels, but not really at the infantry weapon level where soldier training, reliablity, ergonomics and good conventional killing power are more important (IMO).

Charon

I agree that the MK 19 and M 2 are fine weapons and dont need to be replaced but its a fact that the M16 is an inherently flawed weapon. The XM-8 looks like a good replacement.