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Offline Gman

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New system, fps still suck :<!!
« on: August 13, 2004, 07:59:45 PM »
Well, I dropped 3000$ on my new system today.

Fx53, 1 gig cas2 ram, x800pro, 10000 RPM Raid 0 drives.

Fire up AH2, it auto detects the card and sets it to 1024 texture.

Running at 1280 32 bit, everything set to performance with the system AND the card overclocked, I get 35 fps in the weeds with all the detail cranked up.  I know, I know, your eye suposedly sees only 25fps, but I think that is crap, I can tell 35 from 65 and 65 from 100 by how the video looks like it lags.  I want my AH1 100 fps constant back!!

WTH does it take to run this game?!?:lol
I see 100 (refresh max) at high altitude over the ocean, but I did that with my xp2100 w/ati ti4200.  

I'm quite let down at the lack of improvement, everybody told me I would be seeing no less than 100fps under any circumstances in the game.

What gives! :confused:
« Last Edit: August 13, 2004, 08:06:29 PM by Gman »

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2004, 12:16:21 AM »
Turn the detail sliders down. AH doesn't look much better with the sliders on max so all you do is slow down your game.

There might be several reasons for the slowness of your system, such as incorrect driver installation etc.

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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2004, 12:36:06 AM »
I think my driver installations are just fine, I scored 11550 in 3dmark2003....

I hate that when you have the detail cranked down in AH2, you don't see the vehicles on the ground until the last second.....

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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2004, 02:22:32 AM »
He should be able to have settings to max. And still get over 70fps. Somthing is up do you have all newest drivers?? O and try not overclosking your card. Maybe thats waht is wrong?just a guess
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2004, 02:32:37 AM »
:Well, I dropped 3000$ on my new system today.:

wow should have the best system out there.... my middle of the road  pos runs it just fine maxed.

Has got to be a driver / setup issue.

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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2004, 09:35:48 AM »
Is it a DELL?

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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2004, 09:37:46 AM »
Of course not, homebuilt system.

FX53, A8V board, x800 vid, 1 gig cas2 ram....

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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2004, 10:18:54 PM »
I have a p4 2.8 ghz on a 875p MB 1gb cas2 mem 7200rpm hdd and a radion 9800 AIW pro. If I turn off temporal anti-alansing and I get 75-400+ fps 1280x1024 32bit color with 4x FSAA and 8XAF. If you turn temporal AA on you get your max fps capped in ah. I get capped at 75.
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2004, 12:48:58 AM »
I dunno guys, everyone is saying "I get 75 fps on the deck with the sliders all left"....it's kind of hard to believe, I've tried every via/vid card (cat and omega) and monitor driver, reformatted twice...I get as low as 22 on the deck when lots of trees are visible, still with the sliders all left and everything cranked at 1280x32bit.  All my drivers and windows updates like dx9c etc are all installed and working fine, I'm totally at a loss for what to do other than take this box back and just not play, as 25 fps for me gives me a headache.  Sure, I've seen 100 up high in the air, but I'm usually not up there.

WTH is going on, either something is screwed with this new system (I am having a hard time believing that as I still can crack 11,000 in 3dmark2003 consistently, yet get crap performance in AH2) or people aren't seeing what they are seeing.

I'm VERY disappointed, this is pretty ****ty having spent so much money for really NO improvement.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2004, 12:55:16 AM by Gman »

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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2004, 02:45:04 AM »
I wonder if there isn't an issue with the x800 Radeon cards themselves in AH2...  I think you are the first person I've heard of who has tested one in AH2.

Try running some other benchmarks (3dmark 2001 se, etc) as well to try to narrow down whether the system is performing worse than other similar systems.

Also, what sound card do you have?  Granted a software based AC97 onboard sound chip isn't going to lose you 30 fps, but they do consume a lot more system resources than a good standalone soundcard.

On my system if I put all 3 bars to the left at 1280x1024 w 4xfsaa enabled I only get around 30 - 40 fps on the deck.  If I move the top two sliders just 1/8 way to the right, it goes to 60+ down low, and I can't see any real difference in graphic detail.

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« Reply #10 on: August 17, 2004, 07:58:17 PM »
hey, having talked about this on ch200 today gman, im really stunned at the issues you have.

the only thing i can think of is that AHII doesnt like ATI cards? :confused: Pyro? Hitech?

to make my AHII playable i had to reduce textures to 256, AHII autos at 512 but its just horrible at that...

maybe you should try backing down from 1024 to 512? or have i missed that you've done that already?

anyway:

A64 3200
Asus K8V
ATI 9700pro 128mb
1gig PC2700. or 512mb PC3200.... 1 gig is faster so...
Samsung 191t TFT @ 70hz 1280x1024.

drivers and settings:
WinXP SP1 + all the updates.
CAT 4.8
Dx9c
1280x1024 desktop AND ingame
FSAAx2 (used to be 4 in AHI)
AFx8 (used to be 16 in AHI)
Vsync ON
everything in ati drivers @ max quality

Game:
Texture size 256
detail sliders about 1cm from max quality
fps limit OFF
40fps low down, 70fps high (ie if i cant see the ground)
Sometimes, on certain parts of the maps i need to reduce vis range because my fps hits 10 for some strange reason....kinda sucks

3dmark2001 = 20431
3dmark2004 = 5898


good luck, and tell us if you fix it...as i want a x800xt soon, and im might need to fix it too....lol
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2004, 01:24:26 PM »
whats the adress to this benchmark thing..dammit my fp suk egg

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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2004, 04:37:05 PM »
First off I wouldn't overclock that card. It doesn't matter if you can or not. There truly is no need to do it with the horsepower that it has right out of the box.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2004, 09:14:36 AM »
Gman, did you ever sort out your fps with the new system. I am having a new system built and putting an X800 in it, would hate not to get GREAT improvement over my old system. I don't think the problem is the card as I saw a thread on the x800 and xtremej said he had one and it was incredible.



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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2004, 09:32:19 AM »
my system is 2600XP and 9800pro 512 pc2100 mem (and on board sound) - in other words - way less than your system, and I get 30 to 40fps consistently.

Did you do a fresh install of windows? - If not I would suggest you do. You are using xp right?

You system should be getting much more fps

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I am using default textures 512, system mem

I am also using 2x ati filters (anis / alias)
« Last Edit: September 01, 2004, 03:04:28 PM by acetnt367th »