New system, fps still suck :<!!

[Gman]

Nope, only fixed it by lowering sliders to about 1.5 inches from the left (say about 70% of max).  This gives me 100 in the air away from the clutter and trees (refresh rate max), and anywhere from 30 in smoke and lots of cons trees to 65 on the deck.

Again, I tried absolutely everything, so many reformatts, so many different types of drivers..all pretty much did the same thing.  I do get 11500 3dmards 3dmark2003, which is about what the system should do, but I still get sucky sucky long time performance (imo) in AH2.  My 2100xp w/ti4200 wasn't much slower.

[save]

What services / programs are running on that machine ???

Make a list and post it.


Also is vsync on or off ?

[Kev367th]

I still think this is an AH2 / x800 / 9800 issue.
Maybe even an AH2 / ATI issue, seems like nVidia cards definately have the edge in here.

I assume you've been into the BIOS and set -

HT bus to 1600
Mem 2T command rate - disabled
Fastwrites OFF
 
etc

[AaronM2]

Hmmmm ive seen a pont like this on newegg he sent his bak but some was tweeked with as if it where droped and the clock really got messed up he was get really b ad farms as well never know maybe so post office guy droped it?? i have a 5200 apg 128mb Just the Gefoece kind not but diffrent people i get 75 with 1024x768 with it all to the left the sliders i still get 75 but i get sucky graphs ( wow that card should get really Nice frames with that card cost like 400+ Right:confused:  i dont get it

[la7'sRule]

ge force run best at 800x600.
if your using a amd chip in a via chipset board and a geforce card, Welll.... Im sorry but they dont go well to gether at all.

the geforece and the amd will work ok with eachother but 1st thing you ebter via chip set in to the equasion u get problems.

The via chip set ont work well at all with these new age gfx cards and the geforce serize are the worst,

Try downloadiong the via 4 in 1 drivers,
and install direct x 9 from windows updates.
Also have a look for newer video card drivers from the manufacturers web site

[Kev367th]

Via chipset may had had issues in earlier versions, but the new chipset on the Athlon 64 boards have no such issues.
If he is getting good scores in 3dmark, good frame rates in other games, and crappy frame rates here - it points to an AH2 prob. Either an complete ATI issue or individual ATI video card model problem.

[blackfalcon4]

Kev, why set HT @ 1600? Maybe for troubleshootin purposes?
Have the same setup pretty much except using ABit AV8pro board.
Run HT @ 2400, mem @ 2,2,3,5
CPU @ 2857 w/excellent results.

Just curious

[bustr]

I'm using an ATI 9700 Pro 128 card.

In AH1 I set my monitor to 1024x768@100mhz and got 100 fps in the game. When AH2 came out my FPS max was 99 with min about 25. So I bought 512M additional RAM and a new monitor that has allowed me to set my desktop to 1024x768@120Hz. In AH2 I'm now at 119 FPS max and about 45 min. Since I got my new monitor my lowest FPS is while processing low atltitude environments, fire, smoke, and cloud banks. Now that I have 1Gig of RAM, AH is using just over 600Mbyte for the game. That ment when I had only 512Mbyte of RAM my PC was slowed down page fileing.

Is anyone having a constant FPS in AH2, or do we all now get our max FPS looking at the sky, and are reduced to our minimum FPS during game play while our systems are processing the environmental graphics?

It would be nice to know if the new AH video model does not favor ATI chip sets. So far to play AH2 I have spent over $3500 on a new PC, 512M additional RAM, and a new Monitor to get 120Hz refresh rate. And this is just so I can get a minimum FPS to play near the ground.


DELL 8250
INTEL 850E chipset
P4 3.06 cpu
1-gig RAMBUS PC1066
ATI 9700 Pro 128
XP Home
VeiwSonic 220G running @1024x768 120hz
SBCGlobal DSL

[eagl]

I was having some probs with my new vid card too...  nvidia 6800 GT.  Even the nvidia demos ran like crap, although framerates in doom3 and other benchmarks seemed to be ok.  So I went digging, and made a few changes.

I downloaded the latest via hyperion drivers even though I'm running an older via kt266a mobo that hadn't had any problems in the past.  No hard drive corruption or any other probs that used to plague via chipset boards, but I figured it probably wouldn't hurt.  I also changed around a few bios settings.

I'd noticed that the doom3 benchmarks and nvidia demos would pause a bit whenever the hard drive light flicked on, so I also increased AGP aperture to 128.  I also increased my FSB from 133 to 135 to push up my pci bus a bit since it looked like that might be holding me back too.

My 3dmark2001 benchmark increased by 200 pts since it's pretty much cpu bound anyhow, but my 3dmark2003 score increased by almost 1000 pts.  The nvidia demos smoothed out a bit, and AH2 framerates seem more consistant and a bit higher.

Anyhow, that's what I did and saw.

[Kev367th]

My bad blackfalcon, not sure what I was thinking about.
2000 or 2400 for HT depending on model.
A8V (mine) goes to 1000 (2000 effective).

[WhiteHawk]

yea..id set everything to normal and get the fps up before i start oc'ing my sht.   My system gets an even 70fps, which is where my monitor refresh is set to.  So Unless you got some pc2100 or something, you got some problem somwhere.

[GreenCloud]

ok..well im now running in the 50-60s now ..before i was in 20s teens and single fps all the time...


I had about 30 process's started when my comp turned on..

I thougth i turend them all of in the start/control panle/startup menu thingy...nowp wrong place to turn them off I found out..



im down to about 14 things being started now..HUGE DIFFerence


MAke sure to check that out

[AaronM2]

I have aboyut 52 of them runin and i have a geforce fx 5200 128mb apg 8x and i still get 75Fps with the sliders to da left but i get sucky graphs

[la7'sRule]

fps are highers when your looking at the sky as there are les details to render...

More things = less fps...

lowering detail setings and changing to 800x600 will proly work just fine.

if not try making the game load textures in your system memory and Also you may want to defrag your hard disk and create e new page file (virual memorey) .swp.

i usualy have like 3gb virtual ram available . nut iv never seen pxc use more than 500mb.

Thera are a lot of little setings that can help Including v-sink disssabeld
But having said that I wouldnt dissable v-sink my self

Also uyou realy dont need to format and reinstall windows.. Its realy rare when u bneed to do this,

prefeorm a thourour diskchk.
then defrag you disks.. This should prove better than format and reinstall.  But will take longer.

You should scandisk and defrag monthly

[la7'sRule]

and as for starting programs....

find and download jv16 power toool

run it  click on registry setings
click on starting programs

tick all the boxes of the programs that shouldnt start on start up.
Click remove

Now dont use jv16 again unless you know what ya doing in the registry and know whats safe to remove.

if you dont know what the program is....
use google to search for the file name....
Find out if its safe to remove like that b4 you remove it.

DONT FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS IF YOU DONT OWN THE COMPUTER. DONT EDIT REGISTRY UNLESS OU HAVE SOME IDEA WHAT YOUR DOING.
DONT COME CRYING TO ME IF U DELETED WRONG THINGS AND PC NO LONGER WORKS PROPERLY.

I have given u all tha inf i give any 1 ls who asks.

Hope it helps