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Offline Ghosth

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Question to all who are so upset
« on: August 20, 2004, 06:53:46 AM »
Seriously, how many of you who are so upset about the change have been here 2 years or more.  How many of you have expeienced changes from HTC first hand other than this one??


AH has been basicly pretty stagnant the last 2 years as the staff worked on AH2.

No major sweeping changes, no new planes, just business as usuall.

Thats fine if thats what you have come to expect.

But those of use who have been here since the early beta days KNOW that change comes in big jumps around here.

One day its quiet, next day there is a post in the news forum & hey presto, we have tanks where there were none before.

Or Hanger strength goes from 1k each to 2500k as a direct result of one side shutting down gameplay for another.
(Bish used to shut down the entire map!)

So this change is normal for us. Its a GOOD SIGN! GOD is not dead, he has his finger on the pulse of the AH community. He is back  in the game, watching, seeing, fixing.

Now I admit this can be a bit upsetting if your not used to it.  After all this is not a democracy.  This is Hitech's Domain.

He RULES here.

Thats ok with me, because he rules fairly for all.

So for all you people with your undies in a bunch, some quick advise.

Shut up, quit posting, quit whining.

FLY

At the end of the month ask yourself.

Was that really so bad?
Do I want to continue?
Or would I rather walk away?

The rest of us will be here in the meantime.

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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2004, 07:29:14 AM »
Well said, Ghosth.

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Offline VolsCAF

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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2004, 07:34:59 AM »
Been here 4 years.

Been through lots of changes and willing to see how it all works out.

Did you ever consider that as a business owner HT might want to hear how people are feeling as he makes changes?

Just a thought.

We pay our money, it's our time to spend. If we wanna post let us post. You don't have to read it.

So go FLY and ask youself...

Why did I spend my time telling people to stop posting when I could have been flying?
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2004, 07:37:54 AM »
Been here three years.
Come on over to Rooks ghost and fly there for a couple of months, then tell me to stop posting.

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Question to all who are so upset
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2004, 07:45:05 AM »
yeah yeah the only good and decent people fly , they are more mature and have more money too.  The other teams are garbage so what if the whinnin bastages on the other team don't get to play, it's their fault cause they not good enough etc etc.  

It's an old tune, pre-dates this game many years.

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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2004, 08:33:32 AM »
whatis your in game i.d. baine1???

always wondered why people would not provide that information when they post.

Oh, and re. Ghosth, been here 2yrs, and only really was upset when I could not up a panzer, or 163 due to eny.  It happened in the wee hours, and HT resolved that issue with the 140 player cap, and 15 eny of 163.  Woot! go HT!
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Re: Question to all who are so upset
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2004, 08:46:30 AM »
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Originally posted by Ghosth
 This is Hitech's Domain.

He RULES here.

Thats ok with me, because he rules fairly for all.

So for all you people with your undies in a bunch, some quick advise.

Shut up, quit posting, quit whining.

FLY



I dont envy any of the HTC staff. Dealing with everyone of all sides has got to be nothing less then a major PIA.

I dont know of which side of the fence you sit or even if you care one way or the other. But to the "quit whining"
Before the changes what were the people (myself included)that were complaining about the hordes doing but whining. Then WE were the whiners.
Well we must have whined good enough because  for better or worse HTC instituted these changes.
So whining must work.

People whines about fuel being porked long enough that something was done about that.
People then whined about the hordes
So why shouldnt they whine if they know that if they whine loud and long enough something will be done?

 LOL if you look at the threads you will see most if not everyone here is a whiner about one thing or another. Be it  the "They porked the fuel at all my forward bases so I can get into a fight in 2 min or less whine. To "He flew right past me to attack my base without stopping to fight me first" To the there are too many enemy planes hording whines.
 Then you have Buff gun whines, GV whines, plane whines and a thousand others.
Then you have the people who whine about people whining which could be another topic all unto itself

Thing is, Your, or my complaint is someone elses whine.
And most people whine's are valid points to those that make them
And whining when done long and loud enough, works.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2004, 08:51:14 AM »
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Originally posted by baine1
Been here three years.
Come on over to Rooks ghost and fly there for a couple of months, then tell me to stop posting.


And you just found the BBS?

Whats you game ID?

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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2004, 08:51:31 AM »
I'd like to ask another question
"to those that are upset" (see its not off topic)

Hypothetically.

If given the choice of only  one or the other only which would you rather have.

The Current ENY system?

Or fuel back to its previous porkable levels?

Neither really effects the way I Fly so I am curious as to what you all think.
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Question to all who are so upset
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2004, 09:19:33 AM »
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Originally posted by VolsCAF
Been here 4 years.

Been through lots of changes and willing to see how it all works out.

Did you ever consider that as a business owner HT might want to hear how people are feeling as he makes changes?

Just a thought.

We pay our money, it's our time to spend. If we wanna post let us post. You don't have to read it.

So go FLY and ask youself...

Why did I spend my time telling people to stop posting when I could have been flying?



Couldn’t have been said more fair or to the point.


Quote
Originally posted by Ghosth
So for all you people with your undies in a bunch, some quick advise.

Shut up, quit posting, quit whining.

FLY



I Just started feeling the squeeze in our squad yesterday when a squad member informed that he made a call to HTC to discuss his dislike of being denied a certain plane. This player is a very pleasant person online and came to our squad as a TOTAL newbie. I spent months trying t get him to fly something other than a C-47. But he was nervous about fighters and said he could best serve as a Goon pilot. When we finally convinced him to move into the cockpit of a fighter he asked what plane to fly? We told him it didn't matter but we suggested he find one he liked and stick to it. He chose the Spit5 and has stuck to it. And has gotten pretty darn good in it too. Without going into great personal detail. I will say that his "Real Life" situation is quite bzy at times and can be quite stressful. His time in AH is supposed to be relaxing and enjoyable. He doesn't have the time or the inclination to learn a different fighter, Nor should he have too.  Without Hijacking or getting off topic in keeping with the New Forum Rules, I will say that there are plenty of other options to effectively balance game play without having to necessarily balance the player numbers.
I am very pleased with HTCs efforts to keep game play balanced.
But its looking more and more like a substantial number of players are feeling alienated with the new hybrid type "Numbers/Game Play balancing System" :(

BTW
Rule Five of the Forum Rules
5- Flamebaiting, trolling, or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed.
 
The Title of the Thread is Stated as a question.
Your intention was to draw us in with the question. Then tell us you don’t actually want or care what our answer was or is. Instead you wanted to tell us to……….

 “Shut up, quit posting, quit whining.”

See Rule 4 and 5 of the Forum Rules.
4- Members should post in a way that is respectful of other users and HTC. Flaming or abusing users is not tolerated.

5- Flamebaiting, trolling, or posting to incite or annoy is not allowed.


PS. The option that was posed to this squad member was "He could change countries"
I think the Mafia Squad is running around 32+ members at present. For him to switch countries would mean the entire squad would change. The Balance would have a great swing in this case.
I guess we are seeing what several players said would happen with this type of balancing system. :(
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Offline Goth

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Question to all who are so upset
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2004, 09:22:47 AM »
Been here since tour 14....so yeah, a couple of years, and have been rook the whole time with a few minor instances of changing countries for a night or two.

I don't like this new implementation for number balance. I think it was a drastic measure that has not addressed the problem, obviously, since numbers are still skewed.

There have always been a number inbalance problem to one degree or another. Last month it was the Knights who suffered. How many months did the rooks have that same problem.

As a community member, it should have been my responsibility to help balance the numbers. I have approached the squad on this issue, and just this week I flew with the knights to get a feel of their country people.

I think, if it had been left alone, numbers would have gravitated on their own to help the balance issue. Now, I think you have a lot of people that refuse to leave out of pure spite now.

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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2004, 09:40:22 AM »
You know, never in my life would I have ever thought that I would be sitting here defending the rights of someone who wanted to fly the La7. :confused:

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« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2004, 10:11:22 AM »
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Originally posted by Goth
You know, never in my life would I have ever thought that I would be sitting here defending the rights of someone who wanted to fly the La7. :confused:


See that's the problem.

It's no one's right to fly any type of airplane.

You pay your money to play the game HT produces.

You have the right to play or not to play.

You have the right to pay for HT's product or not.

Paying for the right to play the game does not entitle anyone to fly any specific airplane.

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Re: Question to all who are so upset
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2004, 10:30:36 AM »
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Originally posted by Ghosth
Seriously, how many of you who are so upset about the change have been here 2 years or more.  .


I had the same observation. The majority of everyone in an uproar I don't even remeber being here over a year.

IMHO most of the experienced player can compete with the early war planes so the changes are easy to cope with.

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Ghosth with all due respect.
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2004, 10:40:32 AM »
Ghosth There is nothing wrong in stateing how you feel to company that depends on your support. As long as its clean and to the point. I for one think it takes bombers out game to hq, when you do 4 extra things to secure hQ . Increase hardness, make more tonage, radar only out if destroyed and then make 163's easier for defense.


 You take out guys going for HQ let alone guy flys to hq for 1 to 2 hours, just to have 1 guy up for 5 mins to knock down bombers. Now you make it so it takes more tonage, and can't kill radar no need for 163's anymore.



 Never have I seen any company not want feed back for its customers. I'd rather see feed back then to have a few Who want this sim to be just Furballs.  Well thats my 2 cents worth..........