<S> Tony Blair

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Saintaw
Kuddos for your calm on this one Nilsen, I think I have seen a new low in BBS IQ. HisTARDicalylarious!

Thx Saintaw. Shouting at the kids usually wont help at all.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Nilsen
Thx Saintaw. Shouting at the kids usually wont help at all.

youre telling me o wise one. by the way you can keep the helmet. youll need it as you obviously cannot take what you are so ready to thoughtlessly dish out.

[Saintaw]

Anonymous, I guess "shades of gray" don't mean a thing to you... Norway has be THE country to deal with the Iraqi thing in ITS best interrest... right.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Saintaw
Anonymous, I guess "shades of gray" don't mean a thing to you... Norway has be THE country to deal with the Iraqi thing in ITS best interrest... right.

sure they mean a great deal to me. i spent two decades working in the real world and dealing with it all the time. but shades of gray certainly dont mean a thing to the majority of the people who write nonsense here and will slam the us and its morals and motivations on a daily basis. im just applying the same filter to my analysis. i hope its as fun for you as it is for me. give me a break. nilsen doesnt have an ounce of respect for blair. that medal was offered because when the right thing needed to be done among many hand wringers that should have acted because they had the power and thus the responsibility to do so blair alone stood tall. nilsens "salute" was a slap in the face. saying he wont accept the medal because troops are still in harms way is an honorable statement. the best statement he could put on the situation which is that hes facing political exile at home thanks to a big campaign of lies and innuendo. the same campaign that nilsen and plenty of others that write here swallow like champagne on a daily basis. blair would love to accept that medal. i dont doubt it means a great deal to him coming from us. because he knows that the us holds him in higher regard for sticking to his guns in a tight spot than most of his coworkers. no need to impress upon me the inescapability of shades of gray. remember that everyone even the evil imperialist usa has to deal with them.

[Chortle]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I dont understand the whole poodle thing.

I know you Brits are "proud" and stuff, sun never sets, etc, etc, etc... but whats the deal?

Stateside we dont view Blair as a poodle at all.

It's just a quick satirical fix for the perception some have that he puts the White House needs before the UK's. In the same vein, he's been called Mr Vice President or my favourite, The Right Honourable Member for Texas North

Underlying it is the long running debate about the UK's future, if its with the US or Europe or something down the middle. He's been called the Poodle of Brussels, guess we're just obsessive about Poodles.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Chortle
It's just a quick satirical fix for the perception some have that he puts the White House needs before the UK's. In the same vein, he's been called Mr Vice President or my favourite, The Right Honourable Member for Texas North

Underlying it is the long running debate about the UK's future, if its with the US or Europe or something down the middle. He's been called the Poodle of Brussels, guess we're just obsessive about Poodles.

he treated proliferation of wmd into possession of terror groups as his primary concern before any other national leader did. hes a smart guy and hes being treated very unfairly in my opinion.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by anonymous
sure they mean a great deal to me. i spent two decades working in the real world and dealing with it all the time. but shades of gray certainly dont mean a thing to the majority of the people who write nonsense here and will slam the us and its morals and motivations on a daily basis. im just applying the same filter to my analysis. i hope its as fun for you as it is for me. give me a break. nilsen doesnt have an ounce of respect for blair. that medal was offered because when the right thing needed to be done among many hand wringers that should have acted because they had the power and thus the responsibility to do so blair alone stood tall. nilsens "salute" was a slap in the face. saying he wont accept the medal because troops are still in harms way is an honorable statement. the best statement he could put on the situation which is that hes facing political exile at home thanks to a big campaign of lies and innuendo. the same campaign that nilsen and plenty of others that write here swallow like champagne on a daily basis. blair would love to accept that medal. i dont doubt it means a great deal to him coming from us. because he knows that the us holds him in higher regard for sticking to his guns in a tight spot than most of his coworkers. no need to impress upon me the inescapability of shades of gray. remember that everyone even the evil imperialist usa has to deal with them.

I do not like beeing told what i think, so   "kindly" stop telling everyone else what i know, feel or think. I would also like you to use facts and not your fiction  when discussing this.

[Pei]

Originally posted by anonymous
he treated proliferation of wmd into possession of terror groups as his primary concern before any other national leader did. hes a smart guy and hes being treated very unfairly in my opinion.

Like any other politician he has his supporters and his detractors.  You only take notice of him when he is dealing with foreign policy matters. Since he tends to agree with US foreign policy he is popular in the US. That does not make him popular with everyone at home.

My biggest beef with him is the "presidential style" of his leadeship (especially limiting Prime Minister's Question Time in the Commons and concentration on managed press conferences instead) and his attempts to make wholesale changes to the constitution,  with the main effect being increasing the power of the governing party and (and himself in particular). I'm also not too happy with the dozens of stealth taxes that his government has introduced, nor the draconian anti-terror legislation.

[_Schadenfreude_]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
I dont understand the whole poodle thing.

I know you Brits are "proud" and stuff, sun never sets, etc, etc, etc... but whats the deal?

Stateside we dont view Blair as a poodle at all.

Ever thought that just maybe it's because you don't know him very well?

[-tronski-]

Poor old Tony...I always thought he was a smart guy till Iraq....

Hopefully our PM John Howard and his liberal govt. joins him on the scrap heap this year

 Tronsky

[Pei]

Originally posted by -tronski-
Poor old Tony...I always thought he was a smart guy till Iraq....

Hopefully our PM John Howard and his liberal govt. joins him on the scrap heap this year

 Tronsky

"they are throwing their children overboard!.."

[demaw1]

History will remmember President Bush and Prime Minster Blair as the two bravest men in the first 10 years of this century.

 If there is to be a history.

[beet1e]

Any Brits planning to vote for Blair in 2005/6?

I think Tony Blair will be remembered for having presided over a government based on a pack of lies and a web of deceit.

Teatime at Beet1e's house

[Gixer]

Originally posted by Nilsen
He refuses to go to the white house to accept a medal for the war in Iraq from Bush until the war is over, and not this close to the election.

He's just trying to save what little face he has left if any for getting involved with bush in such a mess  and bunch of lies in
the first place. Come election he will be gone and Bush if he's back
in will be without his only "real" ally in the whole thing.



...-Gixer

[Dowding]

Didn't vote for Blair last time and I certainly won't be voting for him this time. Will probably vote for a local independant. I won't vote Conservative without ritually dis-emboweling myself straight afterwards, and the Liberal Democrats are far too socialist for my liking.

Blair is a clever man... which makes me wonder why he ever committed himself so wholeheartedly to the support of an imbecile and his entourage.

Blair out in 2005, if you would be so kind.