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Offline hyena426

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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2004, 12:32:09 AM »
im runing a old pentium 4. 1.4 gig with 384mb ram bus memory,,,400mb front side bus intel 850 chip set,,geforce 5200 ultra asylum 256mb

my frame rate is anywere from 40 too 100 frames a sec,,counting on whats going on,,i never seen it dip below 40 frames a sec<~~think it hit 39 during a heavy bomber attack,,lol,,sounds like somthing going on,,because most of you got cpu's that should torch on my machine,,lol,aces runs nice and smooth,,and im lacking memory that you all have,,even know my machine is upgradible to 3 gig's<~~nice thing about dual channel ram:)

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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2004, 05:15:17 AM »
Just wanted to add my specs to the comparison.Becuase im not have any problems with FPS on my below average system.
Amd 2500+ mmx 1,8 GHZ
384 mb Ram
128mb GF4 MX integrated GPU

Display mode 1024x768(32 bit)(72Hz)
With all sliders on default,terrain mippmaping unchecked.Im getting solid 35-72 Fps with the exeption of big bomb drops(it will go down to low 20s).
Set the sliders 25% to the right will get me 45-72 Fps steady,oh and im runnin at 256 textures.

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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2004, 09:07:35 AM »
hyena what texture are you running?  I am going to have to guess its 256.

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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2004, 11:22:10 AM »
I agree that the Trees are the FPS killers. I have a P4 2.8, 1 gig DDR400, FX5900 Ultra 128m, I run 1600x1200 resolution with 512 textures and all sliders at max except for trees which I set at minimum unless I'm looking for GV's (which is not very often). I'm usually at the monotor refresh of 72 fps unless I turn trees up and it runs 30-38 fps, but the trees kind of "shimmer" and the frame rate actually appears to my eye to be much worse than the 30-38 fps shown. Its some kind of effect with the way the trees are shown, but dont know much about that stuff.

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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2004, 12:28:53 PM »
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Originally posted by hyena426
im runing a old pentium 4. 1.4 gig with 384mb ram bus memory,,,400mb front side bus intel 850 chip set,,geforce 5200 ultra asylum 256mb

my frame rate is anywere from 40 too 100 frames a sec,,counting on whats going on,,i never seen it dip below 40 frames a sec<~~think it hit 39 during a heavy bomber attack,,lol,,sounds like somthing going on,,because most of you got cpu's that should torch on my machine,,lol,aces runs nice and smooth,,and im lacking memory that you all have,,even know my machine is upgradible to 3 gig's<~~nice thing about dual channel ram:)


Do you run vsync on or off?  

We have VERY similar systems (almost exactly) but you got a bit more RDRAM.  If all i gota do is drop 90.00 on new RDRAM I wanna know.
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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2004, 02:08:06 PM »
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hyena what texture are you running? I am going to have to guess its 256.
im runing true color 32bit,,got a nice flat screen monitor<~~couldnt tell much diffrence between true color and high color on frame rates,but i may be wrong,,been working fine on true,,i havent run 256 color sence my old 200 meg cyrix

offline the game runs about 80fps no less,,untill i get low,,but doesnt drop past 50,,online it crawls down to about 40,,too 100 freakishly,,lol,,but allways smooth as butter,,i never had a proublem with frame rate,,i am using rdram pc800 chips<~~im thinking about moving up to a gig atleast,,but my machine also runs doom 3 good,,i didnt think it would run that great,,sence the reqirments are above my machine,,i think a 1.5 gig,,but seems to run great on my machine so far{crossing fingers that some level dont tear it up},,lol but i just got that game last week

as for the vsync,,ill have to check on that,,i havent checked my aces high 3d settings in a while,,lol
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« Reply #36 on: August 28, 2004, 02:36:31 PM »
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as for the vsync,,ill have to check on that,,i havent checked my aces high 3d settings in a while,,lol


The 256 was in refrence to an AH setting.  When you launch AH click video options, and see what your texture size is.

The Vsync is a Video Card setting, and can be found in Display properties (you can right click desktop, select properties.  OR go to the controll panel and select display)  Settings tab--> click ADVANCED--> click GForce FX5200. Tab--> Then select OpenGL settings.

You'll find VERTICLE SYNC in a window towards the bottom.  Tell me if it's ALWAYS OFF,  ON BY DEFAULT, or OFF BY DEFAULT.

I also run PC800 RDRAM, and the main diff btween us is a bit more ram on your part.  

Please lemme know what your vsync setting is.
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« Reply #37 on: August 28, 2004, 02:46:41 PM »
awww i see,,i miss understood,,and its set on 1024,,will i get better frames at 512 or 256?,,i never tried,,lol

vsync says its on by default:)

and im not sure how much it will help,,but i could tell a big diffrence when i added that 128megs to my 256on my boot up time and most games
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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2004, 03:56:12 PM »
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awww i see,,i miss understood,,and its set on 1024,,will i get better frames at 512 or 256?,,i never tried,,lol

vsync says its on by default:)

and im not sure how much it will help,,but i could tell a big diffrence when i added that 128megs to my 256on my boot up time and most games


t/y for the confirmation that most my flying woe's are due to my lack of ram.
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« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2004, 04:02:16 PM »
ehhh, I would not put to much weight on that.  I went from 512 to 1gig and noticed little to no difference.  According to hyenas numbers his 1.4 gig with 384mb is outperforming a 3.0p4 with 1gig ram and a better video card (on a very clean and streamlined system to boot).  I think there are many many factors affecting fps.

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« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2004, 04:17:44 PM »
I just replaced my old GF-II 32mb vid carf with FX5200 128 mb.
my CPU is pentium 4 1GHz, and 512 mb RAM.

on other games frame rate improvement is much more pronounced than in AH. The major effect is that I can turn up level of detail without loosing FPS, but it hardly raised the maximum FPS I can get on lowest setting.

My feel is that CPU power is important in AH for frame rates, especially for high resolutions (my brother's machines achives better frame rates in 1200x1000 than mine - he has GF 3 card but 2Ghz CPU).

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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2004, 04:42:55 PM »
Update -

The current map seems to be better for my framerates plus I turned the vis range waaaay down (about 15% from minimum) while leaving the top 2 sliders near midpoint.  With those settings (1280x1024 and 512 texture size) I can usually maintain over 30 fps even over smoky fields during attacks.  In the air away from fields and not at low alt, I'm getting 50+ fps in most places.

The nice thing about the 6800GT is that I'm able to run those settings and add in 4x FSAA and 2x ansio at 1280x1024 and the framerates only drop a tiny bit.
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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2004, 05:18:46 PM »
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1.4 gig with 384mb is outperforming a 3.0p4 with 1gig ram and a better video card (on a very clean and streamlined system to boot). I think there are many many factors affecting fps.
cc,,seems that way,,i have no idea why,,even my buddies athlon is a 1.9 gig,,with a 9700 pro,,i allways seem to have a faster frame rate than him on aces high atleast,i have no idea why,,is it because i got better front side bus maybe? but i dout i have a faster front side bus that a 3.0 gig computer im sure,,lol

my system has allways run very clean,,and im even using the most dreaded windows me,,its never crashed on me,,or gave me a proublem,,but i do run alot of security on this machine,,firewall i run all the time,,virus protection<~~only run it when im signing off to check for things,lol and ad aware to keep my machine runing happy,,even with firewall on,,im still runing at 94%cpu power,,which aint too bad i dont think:)

just checked my video memory on aces high,,it said,,264.2 using 29.2
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« Reply #43 on: August 28, 2004, 08:44:15 PM »
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ehhh, I would not put to much weight on that.  I went from 512 to 1gig and noticed little to no difference.  According to hyenas numbers his 1.4 gig with 384mb is outperforming a 3.0p4 with 1gig ram and a better video card (on a very clean and streamlined system to boot).  I think there are many many factors affecting fps.


One thing to consider it his TYPE of ram.  128mb of RDRAM is close to 512mb of SDRAM.  384mb of RDRAM is then well over a gig worth of SDRAM, AND it was designed specifically for the Pent4 he is usin'.
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« Reply #44 on: August 28, 2004, 09:15:05 PM »
YEah, and the wankel is twice as good as an inline four.    

If rdram was twice as good as ddr400 people would actually buy rdram.  I can believe that rdram was twice as fast as 133, which was its competitor when rdram was designed.