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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2004, 04:59:02 PM »
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Also why do the Axis get Bf 109F-4, Bf 109G-2 and Bf 109G-6.  When the RAF only get Spit IX? and not Spit V too?  Spit V were still used in 1943.

Axis get choice from 7 fighters (Bf 109F-4, Bf 109G-2, Bf 109G-6, Bf 110G-2, C 205, Fw 190A-5, Fw 190F-8) allies get choice of 4  (Mosquito Mk VI P-47D-11 Spitfire IX Typhoon)

And before you call me a spitdweeb or whatever, im quite happy to fly as either axis or allied. ;)


Maybe so that axis side has some chance in mixed fight?  

With Spit V and Hurri 2C alongside Typh and D11 in there the allies could bring by far the both the fastest and best turning planes to any fight.

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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2004, 06:57:31 PM »
Looks like a fine setup to me, both sides have some very good rides. I dont see either side with a crutch. Fly them to their strengths. The Spit V was available 43 but I see that as a design call, its not really required.
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2004, 09:49:09 PM »
Looks good to me too, although I would drop the b17 just for variety.  Love the lanc, and would love to see the lufties get a chance to shoot at it.  

By the way.  What is this wussy fuel consumption going on right now?  

CAN I SUGGEST!!!!

that you change the fuel modifier to accurately protray the real bomber range?  So in this setup, if the lanc were hauling a cookie and the rest of its heavy load all the way to its furthest 1943 target (berlin?) how much fuel did it take to land with a reasonable tank left (e.g. 100 gallons)?  

Please find out and make it match.  

Why?  Cause that could give us a little taste of what real historical accuracy would be.  

AND! it will get rid of buffs leaving with 25% fuel and climbing like slug banshees.

AND! make sure your estimates are done at real throttle settings, not full bore all the way to berlin.  I want climb on full throttle, level at 25k and then normal or cruise to berlin, then back on normal or cruise to land in england.  Set your fuel modifier on that, and lets see what happens.
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« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2004, 12:12:13 AM »
Double check for me. Is this correct?:

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2004, 12:37:42 AM »
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By the way.  What is this wussy fuel consumption going on right now?  


I think this map is 1:1 so a 1.0 burn rate is the real burn rate, but I'm not positive about that. I do agree with you though, I would put burn at 1.5 minimum and probably around 1.7.

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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2004, 02:08:01 AM »
The map must be less then 1:1 ... a 109 on full fuel can climb to 30k and loiter over London for hours with no drop tank.

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2004, 06:06:33 AM »
IIRC the narrowest point between England and France is 33 miles the map is slightly off with distances and other realities being sacrificed for game play.  Taking off from a coastal base and flying across the channel would not take that much fuel.  furthermore with a full fuel and a drop tank at 75% the 109 is getting 127 minutes of flight time.  That's close enough for me and it's also long enough for me.  I have never yet flown as far North as London and never will.  The ack engaging and killing a single fighter or two fighters dictates that we will never "experience realism" in this or any other game

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« Reply #22 on: August 27, 2004, 07:00:05 AM »
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Ju88A-4 = 31,000lb
Lancaster B.III = 68,000 lb
Boeing B17G = 65,000 lb


no boober dweeb will fly the lanc if the b17 is available

get rid of the b17 ack star or disable its formation option
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« Reply #23 on: August 27, 2004, 07:55:00 AM »
no 109 had a time in flight of 127 minutes at full throttle.

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« Reply #24 on: August 27, 2004, 07:55:52 AM »
I would also like to see the b17 gone, maybe for just the first half of the week.

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« Reply #25 on: August 27, 2004, 09:07:38 AM »
It is only 23 miles from Dover to Calais. In the BoB forums they said the map was 1:1, but thats the only place I have seen that.

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« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2004, 11:32:34 AM »
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no 109 had a time in flight of 127 minutes at full throttle.


75% throttle

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« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2004, 12:09:13 PM »
Ahh!

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« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2004, 03:49:58 PM »
Btw, any chance of getting our limited icons back for this setup?

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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2004, 01:24:45 PM »
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Also why do the Axis get Bf 109F-4, Bf 109G-2 and Bf 109G-6.  When the RAF only get Spit IX? and not Spit V too?  Spit V were still used in 1943.


Hmmm,  Allied loses spit V and HurriII,  Axis don't lose 109F4...
well it is Forks set up:rolleyes: