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Offline nopoop

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« Reply #120 on: September 04, 2004, 01:38:59 PM »
Dok a rolling plane set reduces choice. You think you see too many of the top tier fighters now, with a rolling plane set you'll see more of the same planes being flown then now.

WB is a perfect example.
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« Reply #121 on: September 04, 2004, 01:48:08 PM »
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99% of the seals who whine about the LA-7 can barely even handle themselves in their plane of choice.

my challenge to these is to ask me to the DA and we'll fly *your* plane of choice.  after this,  i'd even be willing to let *you* fly the la-7 and i fly *your* ride. maybe you'll learn something.


Shane,
I'll take that offer...knowing that I'll have my a$s handed to me, but at least it'll be a learning experience.  :D

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« Reply #122 on: September 04, 2004, 03:21:25 PM »
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Dok a rolling plane set reduces choice. You think you see too many of the top tier fighters now, with a rolling plane set you'll see more of the same planes being flown then now.

WB is a perfect example.


Depends on how you look at it. Right now there are a lot of choices that are simply not worthwhile because of the skew towards late war planes.


The idea heard recently that I liked best for creating a better mix of planes was to make the central "furball" area be early war planes only. You'd really need to chop out a few fields around that area so that it was a 2-sector flight to bring a late-war bird to that part of the map.

Kind of like a "Lost World" effect ... on a hidden plateau ancient dinosaurs still fly. No B17 dive-bombers, no La-7's, no Fw's, no Runstangs, no fully tracked GV's, no perks. Just Spit I's, Hurri I's, Zekes, Wildcats, P40's, Emils (the lone cannon bird), SBD's, maybe let the Sturmi in. Could be a lot of fun and new players would learn a hell of a lot. Base captures would require gaining skills because you can't just hose things down with 20mm and rockets.

Anyone bringing a late-war bird there would have a clear edge, but if that person got low and slow he'd have some definite issues.

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« Reply #123 on: September 04, 2004, 06:11:36 PM »
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but for HTC to use this dweebmobile to handicap pilots of lesser skill to be more in line with the experten i dont agree with.. I see lot of complaining about how no one fights in this game and this stupid aircraft is at the root of the problem..


LOL, i think you will find the timid 25k pony pilots are the cause of this not LA7's or the Run90 pilots.

I fly the la7 to catch these planes when they dive to the deck to try and vulch then run...errr extend, i love imagining their faces.................awwww crap, hes catching me, now what?!!!!

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« Reply #124 on: September 04, 2004, 06:29:40 PM »
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. . . Kind of like a "Lost World" effect ... on a hidden plateau ancient dinosaurs still fly. No B17 dive-bombers, no La-7's, no Fw's, no Runstangs, no fully tracked GV's, no perks. Just Spit I's, Hurri I's, Zekes, Wildcats, P40's, Emils (the lone cannon bird), SBD's, . . .


What about the two cannons in the wings of the Zeke (Zero)?  Is it my imagination, or does the Zero have two 20mm's, and 2 .30 cal. machine guns???

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« Reply #125 on: September 04, 2004, 06:41:51 PM »
Yeah ... the Zeke does ... but not the 250 rpg of ammo like the 190 has. And flak suppression would tend to be quite hazardous duty in the Zero.

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« Reply #126 on: September 04, 2004, 08:27:07 PM »
The 109E has 60 rpg of rather weak cannon ammunition, same as the A6M2.

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« Reply #127 on: September 04, 2004, 08:31:16 PM »
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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Depends on how you look at it. Right now there are a lot of choices that are simply not worthwhile because of the skew towards late war planes.


The idea heard recently that I liked best for creating a better mix of planes was to make the central "furball" area be early war planes only. You'd really need to chop out a few fields around that area so that it was a 2-sector flight to bring a late-war bird to that part of the map.

Kind of like a "Lost World" effect ... on a hidden plateau ancient dinosaurs still fly. No B17 dive-bombers, no La-7's, no Fw's, no Runstangs, no fully tracked GV's, no perks. Just Spit I's, Hurri I's, Zekes, Wildcats, P40's, Emils (the lone cannon bird), SBD's, maybe let the Sturmi in. Could be a lot of fun and new players would learn a hell of a lot. Base captures would require gaining skills because you can't just hose things down with 20mm and rockets.

Anyone bringing a late-war bird there would have a clear edge, but if that person got low and slow he'd have some definite issues.



I never liked the RPS in WB, but would love to see a "Lost World"  on a couple of the maps, now that would be fun - same principle as Tank Town I guess.
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« Reply #128 on: September 04, 2004, 08:46:09 PM »
What about the two cannons in the wings of the Zeke (Zero)? Is it my imagination, or does the Zero have two 20mm's, and 2 .30 cal. machine guns???

A6M2 has a pair of 7.7 mgs.

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« Reply #129 on: September 04, 2004, 09:05:38 PM »
Well, so far IMO there are only two things that can stop the la7... puffy ack and lack of fuel.   It is a monster of the first order.

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« Reply #130 on: September 04, 2004, 09:12:25 PM »
Face it --- the MiG-3 is much better than the La series at altitudes of 15k+. *Subliminal Message Alert*

The La series is for low altitudes, and can be absolutely slaughtered by even the 109-F4 at higher altitudes.

It's funny how so many of you guys complain about these superb low-level fighters when you could just as easily avoid them all together. German pilots avoided the Yak-3 at low altitudes in their planes, and you should avoid the La series at low altitudes in BnZ planes.

"Runstangs" and "Run90's", hmm? If they weren't meant to get pilots out of trouble, they wouldn't have been made to go so fast. So, what, you're just supposed to let the enemy rape you by flying at a constantly low speed of about 280mph?

The British had the same whining problems with fighting the South Africans in the 1800's. The South Africans used Geurilla tactics, and were very successful against the British forces. The Brits complained because they "weren't letting us kill them", so to speak.

I don't see the "timid pilots" as the problem. You're the problem, as you seem unable to adapt your strategies accordingly.
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« Reply #131 on: September 04, 2004, 09:29:24 PM »
Spoken like a true sky accountant.

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« Reply #132 on: September 04, 2004, 09:29:51 PM »
Are you saying I'm the problem Fruda?

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« Reply #133 on: September 05, 2004, 12:33:32 AM »
fuel seems to be the only limitation the la7 has for a fighter.
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« Reply #134 on: September 05, 2004, 01:11:28 AM »
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fuel seems to be the only limitation the la7 has for a fighter.


and the inability to accelerate past 450 or so in a shallow dive. i dont recall the la7 acting like this in AH1. other planes can out accelerate it on the deck also.