Author Topic: Changing some settings to the ENY  (Read 1231 times)

Offline hitech

  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 12378
      • http://www.hitechcreations.com
Changing some settings to the ENY
« on: September 14, 2004, 11:39:15 AM »
These are the current settings in the system. All charts are based on the smallest country having 100 players.




New settings.




In addition we will be changing the minimum total players before the ENY becomes active from 140 to 200.


HiTech

Offline BigGun

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 842
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2004, 11:42:34 AM »
Cool, will be interesting to see the impact.

Offline Zazen13

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3600
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2004, 11:49:47 AM »
Just to make sure I am reading this correctly. The modified system limits slightly less for a small advantage in numbers but more for a large advantage?

Zazen
Zazen PhD of Cherrypickology
Author of, "The Zen Art of Cherrypicking" and other related works.
Quote, "Cherrypicking is a state of mind & being, not only Art and Scienc

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23047
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2004, 11:50:04 AM »
So it looks like a steeper climb that starts at 135 over 100 instead of 115 over 100 and peaks at ENY 48 when the number hits 225 over 100 instead of  235 over 100.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline flyingaround

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 422
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2004, 11:51:18 AM »
am i reading this correctly that it takes longer to affect med. ENY rides, but when it kicks in, it affects 'em faster?
WMLute

III/JG26 9th ST WidowMakers

Offline Octavius

  • Skinner Team
  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6651
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2004, 11:51:20 AM »
Sorry I don't really follow.

If the low-number country has about 100 players, would the x-axis represent the disparity between low country and outnumbering country?  

If thats the case, then when ENY *does* kick in at 200, bam we're at 38ish ENY right off the bat?

I dont think I'm seeing this right..
octavius
Fat Drunk BasTards (forum)

"bastard coated bastards with bastard filling?  delicious!"
Guest of the ++Blue Knights++[/size]

Offline xHaMmeRx

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 402
      • http://www.netaces.org
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2004, 11:53:09 AM »
HiTech

Just to see if I understand this correctly, does this mean ENY kicks in once a country has 35 more people than the smallest country?  

Hammer
netAces.org - Tips, Tactics and More!

Offline hitech

  • Administrator
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 12378
      • http://www.hitechcreations.com
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2004, 11:56:47 AM »
No xHammeRx: The numbers are just an example. It depends on the percentage wrather than numbers. I.E. take the player count in the small country , then divide your country by the smallest. I.E. int this example smallest is 100.

So if your country has 135 it would be 135/100.


HiTech

Offline Zazen13

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3600
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2004, 12:03:43 PM »
To me it looks like until 'your' country has twice the smallest country's numbers the penalty is slightly lighter than before. But, once you reach 2 to 1, the penalty is larger under the new system. Is this correct?

Zazen
Zazen PhD of Cherrypickology
Author of, "The Zen Art of Cherrypicking" and other related works.
Quote, "Cherrypicking is a state of mind & being, not only Art and Scienc

Offline Dead Man Flying

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 6301
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2004, 12:08:24 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Zazen13 To me it looks like until 'your' country has twice the smallest country's numbers the penalty is slightly lighter than before. But, once you reach 2 to 1, the penalty is larger under the new system. Is this correct?


It looks to me like the lower graph crosses  above the top graph at around 190/100.  So yeah, basically the punishment is relatively lighter until you have a 1.9:1 ratio, after which it becomes increasingly severe until it reaches the upper boundary.  

This should give some more leeway to marginal but not overwhelming numbers advantages, which I think really encompass most of the complaining we've seen.  It also puts a serious penalty on uberhordes.  Sunday nights will become relatively more difficult for Rooks, though I suspect it won't do anything more than slow the steamroll.

-- Todd/Leviathn
« Last Edit: September 14, 2004, 12:11:12 PM by Dead Man Flying »

Offline Karnak

  • Radioactive Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 23047
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2004, 12:11:35 PM »
HiTech,

I'm not sure this is the place for it, but I was wondering if the time delay for switching countries could be lessened or, prefferably, removed when switching to the lowest number country.  I doubt spying would be that large an issue as most people so inclined probably have multiple accounts already.

It would be nice for the people who are really dedicated to a particular ride to always be able to switch so as to get their ride.  As it is now they can switch once and then if the numbers in their new country grow over the next hour or two they cannot switch to the low country to get their ride.
Petals floating by,
      Drift through my woman's hand,
             As she remembers me-

Offline Roscoroo

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8424
      • http://www.roscoroo.com/
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2004, 12:43:20 PM »
So is it still active ... when all three countrys are below 100 players each ???
  Or does this still go by total numbers ?
Roscoroo ,
"Of course at Uncle Teds restaurant , you have the option to shoot them yourself"  Ted Nugent
(=Ghosts=Scenariroo's  Patch donation

Offline Zazen13

  • Gold Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3600
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2004, 12:50:45 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
It looks to me like the lower graph crosses  above the top graph at around 190/100.  So yeah, basically the punishment is relatively lighter until you have a 1.9:1 ratio, after which it becomes increasingly severe until it reaches the upper boundary.  

This should give some more leeway to marginal but not overwhelming numbers advantages, which I think really encompass most of the complaining we've seen.  It also puts a serious penalty on uberhordes.  Sunday nights will become relatively more difficult for Rooks, though I suspect it won't do anything more than slow the steamroll.

-- Todd/Leviathn


It also doesn't kick in until there's at least a 40% or so disparity. As opposed to a 20% or so disparity under the old system, that is a big improvement in my opinion.

Zazen
« Last Edit: September 14, 2004, 12:53:15 PM by Zazen13 »
Zazen PhD of Cherrypickology
Author of, "The Zen Art of Cherrypicking" and other related works.
Quote, "Cherrypicking is a state of mind & being, not only Art and Scienc

Offline xHaMmeRx

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 402
      • http://www.netaces.org
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2004, 01:02:26 PM »
Thanks.  % makes a lot of sense.  

Offline kj714

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 874
Changing some settings to the ENY
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2004, 01:24:10 PM »
thanks HT for taking the time to analyze the impacts of ENY and make adjustments to it.