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Offline frank3

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2004, 11:27:28 AM »
Hell, even it was for fun, it still is one awsome landing!

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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2004, 11:44:17 AM »
From all your descriptions and comments I think I've seen this one b4. Is it the one where a 747 is crabbing like hell and lands almost sideways. Looks like there's water just beyond the edge of the runway?

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2004, 12:18:32 PM »
Korean Airlines is notorious for it's bad safety record and recless pilots. If you are a geek or a pilot, you might find these page s interesting:

http://www.vision.net.au/~apaterson/aviation/korean_audit.htm
http://aviation-safety.net/database/dblist.php?field=Operatorkey&var=1089&cat=%&sorteer=datekey&page=1

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2004, 12:37:37 PM »
Didn't visit the site listed... I try to avoid porn sites at work...

Is this it?

http://www.hang-out.co.uk/photos/Resources/kt_korean_rw13.mpg
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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2004, 12:47:10 PM »
Porn site? I didn't even notice that. Just watched the video and left. LOL



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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2004, 12:47:13 PM »
« Last Edit: September 16, 2004, 01:02:49 PM by mora »

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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2004, 01:31:44 PM »
That's insane...  You couldn't pay me enough to do that.  I've diverted under less hazardous situations even though it was only my own butt on the line.  Crap like that, where the damned desk jockeys tell the pilots stuff like "well billybob flew in there, why won't you?", really pisses me off.  If they want to risk their own butt, that's one thing.  Risking the lives of all those passengers is different, and it's the damned non-flyers sitting on their collective prettythange$ that push the pilots into doing stuff like that.

So that airport is closed?  If so, good riddance.  If they don't have the common sense to apply good airmanship and not land there when the crosswinds were that bad, maybe it's better to just close the whole airport.
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2004, 01:37:07 PM »
I thought it was a cross wind landing too but after looking at it, I'm not so sure.

He's crabbing with the nose pointed to the right.

Then he kicks the crab out and goes wing low on the left side.

If there was a strong cross wind from the right necessitating the crab right, would'nt he then go wing low on the right after kicking the crab out?

(I've not done a cross wind landing yet but I thought that's what I read in my maneauvers book)

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2004, 01:43:55 PM »
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Originally posted by mora
Some photos of landings at Kai Tak, note the engine strike:

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?photographersearch=Daryl+Chapman&distinct_entry=true&daterange=&sort_order=views

Another video of a "nice" landing:
http://www.lappis.net/AlItalia.mpeg


Incredible pics! Thank you!

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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2004, 02:55:48 PM »
A standard approach at the old Kai Tak airport was like so...

1) Approach over the bay heading 270 (west) until you reach the Sha Lo Wan NDB.
2) Come right to 088 (east) and fly over the city until you reach the red and white checkerboard positioned on a hill 2.5 miles from the runway
3) When the DME reads 2.2 miles, come hard right to 135 and line up on the runway.
4) Roll out of the turn and flare simultaniously to execute a proper landing.


I've seen countless photos of engine strikes, runway over-runs, go-arounds, and approaches at Kai Tak. Search http://www.airliners.net for Kai Tak and you'll see a ton of photos. If you've ever seen the shot of a 747 flying down a street, that's not a doctored image. It's real!

Here it is

 Just after reaching the checkerboard you're only at 500 feet, and by the time you roll out you're at half that altitude. There isn't enough time to come in with a normal approach. You've got a hill on your left, the city under you, and a bay to your right. It's either dive like mad or miss the approach. Some might ask "why not reverse the approach?" No can do, unless you want to land heading towards an 1,800 foot hill with only a quarter mile between the end of the runway and the hill. Korean Air was notorious for balking landings, totaling aircraft, and fragging engines when trying to land there. JAL and ANA, along with BA and AlItalia, made some of the best touchdowns ever there.

They closed Kai Tak down several years ago so they could build a new airport similar to Kansai International, which is an island. The new one is outside Hong Kong Bay, made from two existing islands. Again, you can find shots of it at http://www.airliners.net



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« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2004, 04:07:52 PM »
LOLOL, this looks like something right out of Indiana Jones!