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[Sikboy]

Originally posted by lazs2
sick... I don't think anyone believes Bush outdebated  kerrie.

lazs

But that wasn't the question. See Grun's post about "who really won." Also, I think Eagler believes, if nobody else does.

-Sik

[SOB]

Originally posted by lazs2
sick... I don't think anyone believes Bush outdebated  kerrie.

Well, except for Eagler, but that's to be expected.

[lazs2]

well... I think we both agree that it would have been pretty shocking if the canadians here had said..

  "wow... after hearing Bush debate I can see the error of socialism and big government and am going to get off the board right now and see if I can change myu own socialist party into one more like Bush's dream."

or... middle Americans saying "wow, after hearing kerrie I can see that we need to bow to world opinion and let them all have a vote in how our country is run and we need to pay a lot more taxes so that we can level the playing field"

lazs

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Bush... smaller government?

Teh fuxx?
-SW

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by lazs2
well... I think we both agree that it would have been pretty shocking if the canadians here had said..
 

Exactly. So... Who won the debate?

-Sik

[GRUNHERZ]

I have no doubt that Kerry won the debate last night - that was obvious.

However it is intersting to see that the same people polled who thought Kerry won the debates still think that Bush is better on national security - the substance of last nights debate.

So what did Kerry win? He won the debate but it seems he did not win on the issue.

[FortyDog]

Clearly Bush lost the debate.  Question is "Did the debate help Kerry in the coming election?"  It's my opinion Kerry was help by these debates.  Kerry was able to clearly tell the American people he was not a flip flopper.  He was able to show the people how Bush made a mistake in invading Iraq.  He showed them he had a plan to get us out of the position of being the sole power driving the Iraq war.  The best Bush could do over and over again was repeat Kerry changes his mind on issues.   Kerry multi-opinionated on many issues.  Bush, one track thinking.  I'll take the guy who can flex when needed.

40DogMAW

[DoctorYO]

We need to get Bush off the wagon.. im having a beer watching the debate.. got a nice buzz going and I hear..

Eh um duh (long pause......)  eh  Saddam.. (wtf the question was Osama...)

I nearly spit my beer out i was laughing so hard..

Im thinking to myself i'm the drunkard here wtf is this guy talking about..

eh duh ha  pause....   Kim IL uh berr...

"I think he was saying he needs a beer ...??? get that man a beer fellas.."

Hopefully the next debate will have a similiar set up.. that crap was hilarious..

No matter what party you like that was freaking hilarious..

Kevin Klein "Its... KKKKKKKK ah kkkkkkk a Ken KKKKK Koming to kkkkKill me.."


DoctorYo

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by FortyDog
He showed them he had a plan to get us out of the position of being the sole power driving the Iraq war.  

40DogMAW

Sorry 40Dog Kerry will do no such thing. The French and Germans have allready said that they will not send troops to iraq no matter who is president here.

They said something like:

"We belive US demands will not change  with a Kerry presidency, a kerry presidency will only make it a bit harder for us to say no to such  US requests"

[Rude]

I give the evening to Kerry....no suprise to Rude.

Bush was too coached for this event....there were moments when the real Bush showed up, however, he was very careful and tried to hard to stick to the debating points.....an uncomfortable presentation at best.

Kerry did the best job since the beginning of his campaign of presenting coherent thoughts.

I suppose the question remains, will last nights effort change the outcome of this election?

The one quality which will commit swing voters is trust.....should be interesting to scan the polls in the upcoming days and weeks.

Thanks for input!

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

Holy s it, it's October already?
-SW

[Rude]

Originally posted by FortyDog
Clearly Bush lost the debate.  Question is "Did the debate help Kerry in the coming election?"  It's my opinion Kerry was help by these debates.  Kerry was able to clearly tell the American people he was not a flip flopper.  He was able to show the people how Bush made a mistake in invading Iraq.  He showed them he had a plan to get us out of the position of being the sole power driving the Iraq war.  The best Bush could do over and over again was repeat Kerry changes his mind on issues.   Kerry multi-opinionated on many issues.  Bush, one track thinking.  I'll take the guy who can flex when needed.

40DogMAW

Just a quick question....what exactly do you think Kerry will do to successfully bring onboard French and German troops, or even UN troops in into Iraq?

It's one thing to shoot air and say I'll do this....it's another to get it done. So far, I have not heard how Kerry will be able to accomplish what he states regarding a broadening of the coalition...talk is cheap ya know.

[AKIron]

Did anyone ever doubt that Kerry is a better speaker? A vote for Kerry is a vote to put the UN in control of the US. He made that pretty clear last night.

[lazs2]

sick.... kerrie won the debate and probly solidified and heartened his supporters.   He might even have picked up a few undecided voters that aren't in California or New york.

I did not like his answers and will be voting for Bush.    I have no idea how others will vote.... except the canadians... I know that they will not be voting.   I know that more colored people will vote for kerrie as will more women and gays and teachers.

I pretty much believe that, based on this one debate... kerrie will not change the electorial landslide that was Bush.

Best answer I can give you at this point.

lazs

[FortyDog]

The answer is very simple.  SHARE THE SPOILS.  Bush's dumb *** refuses thus no one will join him.  What a dumb f*** he is.

40DogMAW