Author Topic: Fuel / Armament States of Performance Graphs (Read 663 times)

xHaMmeRx · « **on:** October 05, 2004, 08:10:00 AM »

Curious as to what the fuel and armament (which package, how much, if any, ammo) states of the planes should be to match the performance charts HTC has posted?

Also, I'm getting ready to start a new round of testing of aircraft. I'm trying to decide what state I want them in. Right now, I'm thinking something along the lines of 15 minutes fuel and 50% ammo - the thought being that this would be the state somewhere in the middle of the "typical" combat: enough fuel and ammo for some combat before RTB time. Any thoughts?

Pyro · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2004, 08:33:25 AM »

Generally, it will be full fuel and normal armament. There are a few exceptions. The P-51's performance is stated without fuel in the aux tank. 3/4 loadout puts you very close to that. I think the P-47's are stated with the smaller ammo loadout.

xHaMmeRx · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2004, 09:03:44 AM »

Pyro,

Thanks for the info. I'll post it somewhere.

Soda · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2004, 09:10:35 AM »

Hammer,
I've generally run 3 tests, the light, medium, and heavyweight on each aircraft. I consider this a method to give best/worst numbers and then the medium is what I'd consider "typical" but depends on aircraft in question, usually around 3/4 internal with no external ord and what I'd consider the most "common" gun package you would likely meet.

That way, you can plan for the worst and do some extrapolation of where you think you are in relation to the numbers I've tested. The differences can be pretty dramatic.

Whatcha planning to test, btw? I'm working on a bunch of tests for the AH aircraft right now.

-Soda

xHaMmeRx · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2004, 09:27:28 AM »

Soda,

Planning on testing level speed, accelleration, dive accelleration, speed retention, 0 throttle decelleration, zoom climb... basically all the things I have on my Plane Performance Data Page. All the stuff I have there now is from AH1. You can see the test conditions / procedures I used on the various pages.

If you would like to combine some effort, let me know. I also plan on recruiting some of my squaddies to help. Otherwise, it's difficult coming up with the time.

Karnak · « **Reply #5 on:** October 05, 2004, 10:18:47 AM »

I'm pretty sure the Mosquito's performance chart is with full fuel and 2,000lbs of bombs as it was initially considered a bomber when it was released. It was switched to being a fighter within a week.

Soda · « **Reply #6 on:** October 05, 2004, 05:18:49 PM »

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Originally posted by xHaMmeRx
Soda,

Planning on testing level speed, accelleration, dive accelleration, speed retention, 0 throttle decelleration, zoom climb...

I've already been working on most of that for my aircraft pages because they need a serious update. Only have a handful of aircraft done but maybe I'll send you a draft spreadsheet that I've formatted up so you can see what I've been testing.

-Soda

Crumpp · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2004, 08:46:22 PM »

Think I have an FW-190A4 vs Mosquito flight graph around. I will see if I can't dig it up.

Crumpp

xHaMmeRx · « **Reply #8 on:** October 06, 2004, 07:27:48 AM »

thanks crumpp

Crumpp · « **Reply #9 on:** October 06, 2004, 01:37:30 PM »

It's a Mossie vs FW-190A3.

Enjoy

Crumpp

Karnak · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2004, 02:06:01 PM »

Keep in mind that that is a Merlin 21 powered Mosquito B.Mk IV and in AH we have a Merlin 25 powered Mosquito FB.Mk VI. Very different aircraft.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2004, 02:26:37 PM »

Damn is that 190 a slow pos...

Crumpp · « **Reply #12 on:** October 06, 2004, 04:07:15 PM »

Keep in mind that is a de-rated BMW 801D2. It did not develop near the power of a rated engine.

Crumpp

Karnak · « **Reply #13 on:** October 06, 2004, 04:15:21 PM »

Heh. I hadn't even looked at the Fw190 line in the chart. That is obviously not an accurate representation of the Fw190A-3's performance.

All things considered, it isn't a very useful chart for AH.

Crumpp · « **Reply #14 on:** October 06, 2004, 04:27:08 PM »

Here is a rated motor flight test for an FW-190A3:

Crumpp