Edwards: What Kerry said!

[SOB]

Originally posted by Martlet
Translated as:  "I can't spin this anymore".

Actually, I think the point he was trying to make was that had we built a stronger coalition going into Iraq, U.S. casualties would have been lessened.  Much the same way that U.S. casualties are lessened by training Iraqis to participate in the liberation of their own country.

[SOB]

Originally posted by AKIron
Best part about all this is that we have only to wait another month to see who is right and who is wrong.

I can tell you the outcome right now.  We're gonna end up with crappy leadership in the White House.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by SOB
Actually, I think the point he was trying to make was that had we built a stronger coalition going into Iraq, U.S. casualties would have been lessened.  Much the same way that U.S. casualties are lessened by training Iraqis to participate in the liberation of their own country.

If he was, then he was further off topic than I thought.

MY point was Kerry is getting whooped in the polls.

Iron's point was how can you not count Iraqi security deaths in the total deaths fighting to win the peace?

You say he's talking about lowering casualties?

[AKIron]

A stronger coalition would most definitely have been better. However, the lack thereof wasn't for lack of effort on Bush's part. With the oil for food scandal now being revealed I think we're truly seeing why there was so much opposition to a concerted effort in enforcing UN resolutions. I think it's obvious there was never going to be more support than that we had.

[Eagler]

a larger coalition would have just given the beheading cheekboness more countries to choose from

a larger coalition would have done nothing to lower the causalities just possibly dilute them per participant only if the additional partners would have placed front line troops on the ground ... and that is debatable

[Toad]

Don't sweat the small stuff. Kerry has a plan to accomodate the hundreds of thousands of French and German boys eager to bring democracy to Iraq. Apparently they're all just waiting to be asked in the right way. Best of all, they apparently want to pay for the experience too!

It's all gonna be OK. We have a plan.

[SOB]

Originally posted by Martlet
You say he's talking about lowering casualties?

I'm saying I think so.  Only he can confirm or deny whether I'm correct.

Now, whether or not we could have built a stronger coalition by holding off a few more months is anyone's guess.

[NUKE]

As far as a plan for Iraq, Cheney had another great line. He said that Kerry's plan was not a plan, it is an echo.

Meaning, Kerry basically is proposing to do exactly what Bush is already doing in Iraq.

[MrCoffee]

I personaly thought Edwards was excellant. Cheney was pretty good also. The whole issue about who would defend America better is so debatable. I personaly think the Kerry Edwards team have what it takes to defend America. Thats my opinion.

[Steve]

personaly think the Kerry Edwards team have what it takes to defend America.

Neither one of these guys(Kerry/Edwards) showed up for their last jobs even 25% of the time.

Kerry voted down almost every defense spending bill for the last 20 years.  Kerry voted for a 6 billion dollar reduction in intelligence spending AFTER Sept 11.   Kerry voted against us coming to the aid of Kuwait when GHWB was in office.  Exactly how has Kerry demonstrated to you, other than a few strong words of late, that he has what it takes to defend America?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Steve
Neither one of these guys(Kerry/Edwards) showed up for their last jobs even 25% of the time.

Skip all the rest... this is the most damning argument Bush/Cheney have (and it's rock solid).

[MrCoffee]

Because hes an american. What american in times like these would not do everything in his power to try to defend america. Of course each would do so according to his own protocol but the end result should be the same so long as they use the military. You only have to watch those beheading videos to reaffirm what to do tot he terrorists in Iraq, Afganistan, or wherever.

Didnt Bush miss his intelligence meetings or something for the first eight months in office?

[Steve]

this is the most damning argument Bush/Cheney have

I strongly disagree.  Kerry has a very clear and consistent voting record(when he voted) that shows he is soft(actually the softest senator on record) of national defense. Both Kerry and Edwards are frighteningly soft on defense as their voting records show.  It is why the refuse to run on their records.

There has never been a more liberal voting record than Kerry's.  If you are a far left liberal, Kerry is your man.

[Steve]

What american in times like these would not do everything in his power to try to defend america.

Keery did this by voting against funding for the war, AFTER the troops were in Iraq.  Kerry would seek a "global test" before defending America.  do you really want people like the French deciding if it's ok for us to act?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Steve
I strongly disagree.  Kerry has a very clear and consistent voting record(when he voted) that shows he is soft(actually the softest senator on record) of national defense. Both Kerry and Edwards are frighteningly soft on defense as their voting records show.  It is why the refuse to run on their records.

And you would be wrong...

http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=177
http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=209
http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=252
http://factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=147

Check out the site... Cheney even referenced it.