Author Topic: Canadian/US federal healthcare outlays. (Read 435 times)

Thrawn · « **on:** October 15, 2004, 05:33:22 PM »

US - 22% of the federal budget.

http://www.kowaldesign.com/budget/percentages.html

Canada - 18% of the federal budget.

http://www.fin.gc.ca/budget04/brief/briefe.htm

Wierd eh? Now this does not take into account Provinical outlays which are were the majority of money comes from. But I didn't realise that the US federal goverment spent so much on the US "capitalist" healthcare system.

Lizking · « **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2004, 05:35:08 PM »

Capitalist health care in the US!? Where have you been hiding for the last 30 years?

Torque · « **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2004, 05:40:37 PM »

IIRC it's about $5500 per person in the US and about $3800 per person in Canada.

Thrawn · « **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2004, 05:43:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Torque
IIRC it's about $5500 per person in the US and about $3800 per person in Canada.

I had thought about this issue quite of few months ago. Perhaps the reason the US has to spend so much on healthcare is because of gross ineffientcies in there socialist aspect, and not so much the capitalist.

Pongo · « **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2004, 06:15:35 PM »

And by every measure, the canadian system is more effective.

Thrawn · « **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2004, 06:33:52 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
And by every measure, the canadian system is more effective.

Except response time.

Torque · « **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2004, 07:11:44 PM »

Those numbers don't represent the real picture, one is universal and one is not.

Yeager · « **Reply #7 on:** October 15, 2004, 07:26:16 PM »

And by every measure, the canadian system is more effective.
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Thats called propaganda.

I do not see americans in any number racing up to canada to experience socialist medicine. We do see globs of seniors hiking up there on pleasure trains for the cheap conterfeit import drugs from malaysia......and of course, the occasional dope head getting his medicinal weed......

Although I haven't heard much about it these last few years, there was a influx of canadians a while back seeking emergency surgery here in the lousy miserable failing states of america because the waiting lines in the wonderful socialist peoples clinics of canada often had patients dying before they could get past the waiting periods needed for life saving surgeries.

canada grows good weed though, go figure.

Lizking · « **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2004, 08:54:31 PM »

Damn shame that it is so effective that Canadians needing care have to come to the US to get it.

Pongo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2004, 09:23:20 PM »

By every measure. Canadians are more healthy then Americans. Our health care system is far more effective. All for a hell of alot less then Americans pay.

NUKE · « **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2004, 09:27:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
By every measure. Canadians are more healthy then Americans. Our health care system is far more effective. All for a hell of alot less then Americans pay.

haha....

Pongo · « **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2004, 09:30:09 PM »

Just the simple truth.
You pay way way more for way way less.
The elite medical care in your country is the best in the world. But the average is weak. Just like in education. The elite level is the best in the world. The average is weak.

NUKE · « **Reply #12 on:** October 15, 2004, 09:34:55 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
Just the simple truth.
You pay way way more for way way less.
The elite medical care in your country is the best in the world. But the average is weak. Just like in education. The elite level is the best in the world. The average is weak.

I have been treated and "cured" of cancer while making about 10.00 an hour, no out of pocket expenses. I do not know anyone who has ever been denied health care.

Even illegal imigrants can get healthcare here, regardless of ability to pay.

Lizking · « **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2004, 09:36:22 PM »

Our minimum equals your best, and those that pay nothing still get it.

Pongo · « **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2004, 11:59:17 PM »

Naw. Our best is just fine. Our average is better then your average.
And everyone pays their bit.