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« Reply #105 on: October 25, 2004, 08:43:55 PM »
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Let's see if I'm understanding here....

380tons of HE were just reported, but can't be found, so they "obviously were looted"?

Since they can't be found it's GW's fault that the HE isn't there, never mind that the IAEA or whoever never bothered to tell us about it in the first place?

And now skerry and his buttboy fanbois are jumping all over GW about it?


Pretty darn close, except the total tonnage is supposedly 360, not 380 ;)
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« Reply #106 on: October 25, 2004, 08:45:37 PM »
I don't know about all that.

But you can be mightily sure of two things.

If WMD was ever found, Bush would be saying it. If WMD ever gets found, Bush will be the first to let you know.

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« Reply #107 on: October 25, 2004, 08:46:15 PM »
Kerry said WMD are crossing our borders every day. Even Kerry can seems to know what a WMD is.

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« Reply #108 on: October 25, 2004, 08:54:51 PM »
I'm sorry, but no amout of high explosive is a WMD in the sense of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons...

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« Reply #109 on: October 25, 2004, 08:55:19 PM »
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Pretty darn close, except the total tonnage is supposedly 360, not 380 ;)


Ok, so GW lost 360T of HE that he didn't know existed until after it was already gone?

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« Reply #110 on: October 25, 2004, 08:59:36 PM »
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I'm sorry, but no amout of high explosive is a WMD in the sense of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons...


well, I like to carry statements to the extreme.

Are you saying that 500 billion tons of HE placed around a city would not be considered a WMD?

That being said.... no, HE are not WMD.

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« Reply #111 on: October 25, 2004, 09:03:23 PM »
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I'm sorry, but no amout of high explosive is a WMD in the sense of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons...


That would be an incorrect statement, you could theoretically detonate enough HE to equal a nuclear detonation. Don't know if you would get the mushroom cloud though, and certainly wouldnt be any radioactive fallout.  

Also explosives are used in nuclear, biological and chemical weapons. I dont know exactly how they are used, or the *why* of it.
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« Reply #112 on: October 25, 2004, 09:05:23 PM »
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Kerry said WMD are crossing our borders every day. Even Kerry can seems to know what a WMD is.


The ketchup man said that? :lol
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« Reply #113 on: October 25, 2004, 09:07:17 PM »
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Ok, so GW lost 360T of HE that he didn't know existed until after it was already gone?


Din't know existed? Everyone knew it existed. For years. The specific location and what it contained. And Bremmer was told about its theft back in May.

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« Reply #114 on: October 25, 2004, 09:09:07 PM »
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Din't know existed? Everyone knew it existed. For years. The specific location and what it contained. And Bremmer was told about its theft back in May.


If Bremmer was told about it in may, and "everyone" knew it existed, why is it suddenly in the news as a big issue?

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« Reply #115 on: October 25, 2004, 09:11:22 PM »
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Din't know existed? Everyone knew it existed. For years. The specific location and what it contained. And Bremmer was told about its theft back in May.


Yep, like Nuke said, if it's common knowledge, why is it suddenly such a big issue?

Just looks like a desperate grasp at a straw from the dems to me.

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« Reply #116 on: October 25, 2004, 09:12:03 PM »
And you could theoretically kill 7 million people by shooting each and every one of them in the head with a 9mm pistol bullet.  Therefore a store of 9mm ammo  is a WMD.

You could theoretically kill 7 million people by slitting their throats with a kitchen knife. Therefore 1 kitchen knife is a WMD...

You can theoreticaly kill 7 million people by pusing each one of them out the window of a sufficenbtly high buildings, thertfore stairs, elevators and windows are are all WMD..

Yea absurdity is fun!

High explosives are not WMD, not in the sense of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.  Anny suggestion otherwise is absurd...

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« Reply #117 on: October 25, 2004, 09:12:58 PM »
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Din't know existed? Everyone knew it existed. For years. The specific location and what it contained. And Bremmer was told about its theft back in May.


Information on this board at least, contradicts that. I also highly doubt that Bush personally knew of the existance and exact locations of each and every one of SH's arms/ammuntion caches.

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If Bremmer was told about it in may, and "everyone" knew it existed, why is it suddenly in the news a a big issue?


Thats a very good question. Most likely has to do with the liberal media digging for dirt just before the elections.
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« Reply #118 on: October 25, 2004, 09:13:29 PM »
Hitler killed how many million? Was he a WMD?

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« Reply #119 on: October 25, 2004, 09:20:13 PM »
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High explosives are not WMD, not in the sense of nuclear, chemical or biological weapons. Anny suggestion otherwise is absurd...



360 tons of HE detonated all at once in a major city would cause massive destruction and would most likely be called a WMD after the fact. Nothing absurd about that. Five pounds of HE here, another 5 pounds over there.....nothing massive about that, hundreds of tons all at once....very massive.

Killing people one at a time with a knife, pistol, pushing them out of a window would most certainly be called something other than WMD. WMD are called that because they can kill enormous numbers of people all at once, with just one weapon. In the case of nukes the property damage would be staggering also.
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