Author Topic: Election question (Read 786 times)

Nilsen · « **on:** October 27, 2004, 02:30:10 PM »

Does every vote count when voting for the president in USA? (you sum them all up)

I thought so, but then i started hearing something about electoral votes. Does that mean that each candidate wins states and then the number of states you have won will dictate who wins, and different states are valued differently based on that "electoral vote thingie"?

ra · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:32:11 PM »

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...and different states are valued differently based on that "electoral vote thingie"?

Yes. The electoral college means that a vote in a low-population state counts slightly more than a vote in a high-population state.

Nilsen · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:35:05 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
Yes. The electoral college means that a vote in a low-population state counts slightly more than a vote in a high-population state.

So basicly the votes of those living in low populated states are worth more than those living in higly populated states?

lazs2 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:36:15 PM »

it should be that votes in low population states count at least 4 times more than in states with high populations but life isn't fair.

do you really want the taxi riding, apartment dwelling, metrosexuals deceiding anything for real people?

lazs

Nilsen · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:40:13 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
it should be that votes in low population states count at least 4 times more than in states with high populations but life isn't fair.

do you really want the taxi riding, apartment dwelling, metrosexuals deceiding anything for real people?

lazs

I take it that you have plenty of trees or desert around your house and not alot of skyscrapers?.... and that bush gets "4" votes from you

ra · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:41:30 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
So basicly the votes of those living in low populated states are worth more than those living in higly populated states?

If you want to put it that way, yes.

Here's another one: each state gets 2 Senators, regardless of the state's population. Rhode Island gets 2, California gets 2.

ra

Nilsen · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:48:27 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
If you want to put it that way, yes.

Here's another one: each state gets 2 Senators, regardless of the state's population. Rhode Island gets 2, California gets 2.

ra

is everyone happy with that arrangement, or is there alot of debate around it.

Thrawn · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:50:02 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
do you really want the taxi riding, apartment dwelling, metrosexuals deceiding anything for real people?

lazs

LOL, you're turning into a charactature of yourself....funny though.

ra · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:50:58 PM »

That debate ended 200+ years ago.

Everyone is happy with it except the Democrats when they lose. Then they call their lawyers.

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:51:16 PM »

there is not much debate on the senator thing. there is mild debate on the electorial vote thing but mostly when there is a loss by a small margin.

I do belive that states with low populations should not be pushed around by tiny little areas of population.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:52:48 PM »

I would agree with you thrawn if I were pontificating about canadian politics.

lazs

Yeager · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:54:44 PM »

The system of electing a President works exactly as it was designed to work. A president will be elected per the procedural law as defined in the constitution. In this I am pleased. Very pleased.

Thrawn · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2004, 02:59:55 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
I would agree with you thrawn if I were pontificating about canadian politics.

lazs

Dude, you made a huge sweeping generalisation about people that live in cities. Tell a Pittsburg steel worker he's a taxi riding, apartment dwelling, metrosexual.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2004, 03:07:24 PM »

Yeah Thrawn saw a TV show about Pittsburgh once, how dare you question his authoritay!

Sikboy · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2004, 03:10:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
is everyone happy with that arrangement, or is there alot of debate around it.

There was a lot of fighting over this during the creation of Constitution.

The compromise was to split the two houses of the Congress their representation. In the Senate, all states are represented equally, with 2 Senators a piece. In the House of Representatives, each state is represented by a number of Congressmen proportional to their population.

The Electoral College is seen by some as an indispensable part of State Sovereignty. That is, in the US, each of the States is considered to be Sovereign within the Federal Government. Obviously, this has limitations (I mean, Georgia can not declare war on Jamaica) Yet, State Autonomy was, and is, considered an important aspect of our Constitutional Framework. I'm sure someone like Todd can explain the particulars as to how State Sovereignty is preserved by the EC much better than I could.
But this might get things rolling.

-Sik