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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2004, 11:50:34 PM »
Seems to me there needs to be a spending limit for all contributors.  Thats it... once you reach that limit, no more money to be spent on the campaign.

As for the bullpooey with all the stupid ballots... I say end it. One ballot for everyone.  Screw the stupid electronic, competrised, punch hole ballots.  Use a simple blank circle and you fill in the circle for the people you choose with a permanent marker or pen.  Thats it, end of story.  Then, they are counted, and there is a permanent record.  Plus, to top it all off, it is cheaper than buying a damn polling machine to begin with!  

I agree, the lawyers will have this thing tied up for the next two weeks...

Gixer's prolly right, gonna make a mockery of the whole system.
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2004, 08:23:47 AM »
if Bush wins by a landslide it will be over... if kerrie wins by any margin, no matter how thin... it will be over.

if Bush wins by one state then it will be a mess like last time.

to the democrats the election is too important to play fair... to the republicans the election is too important to not play fair.

Bush needs to win by two big states at least or kerrie needs to win by one electorial vote to give us relief.

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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2004, 08:39:46 AM »

Offline RTStuka

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2004, 08:48:13 AM »
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Seems to me there needs to be a spending limit for all contributors.  Thats it... once you reach that limit, no more money to be spent on the campaign.



I agree with that but we all know it will never happen. Too many people would lose money over it, less money would mean less commercials so the Broadcasting companies would take a hit, less money means less travel so the tourism side would take a hit. Sad fact is this country has too much greed for the green stuff to stop the spending by politicans.

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2004, 08:54:04 AM »
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
We'll know the clear loser on November 2nd, either way...

American citizens.
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pffftttt...Bush, by a clear margin - yea!;)

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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2004, 08:59:52 AM »
Just PLEASE let it end.

Another Bush/Kerry discussion and I'm gonna frigging lose it.

SHUT UP about it already...go vote and deal with the consequences.

Honestly, enough is enough.
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2004, 09:00:52 AM »
mora... or you could go to a site that isn't prejudiced by being an avowed kerrie supporter...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Electoral%20College%20Projection.htm

this site uses the data to show what states the the candidates really can count on.

Again... it will be Florida that decides and with Bush at a 4-5% lead by every other poll... kerrie will have to try to take the election in Floridas democrat controlled courts... like last time with gore.   There is a possibility that Bush will take enough states to win without Florida tho...

It is also a possiobility that all the really close states will go to kerrie and then florida will also somehow go to kerrie... in which case it is over.

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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2004, 09:17:23 AM »
"Furthermore, the lead has changed in five states, and all five changes favor Kerry. As a result, Kerry has now passed Bush in the electoral college. If today's results are the final results Wednesday morning, John Kerry will be elected as the 44th President of the United States, with 283 votes in the electoral college to George Bush's 246. But don't count on it. Many of Kerry's leads are razor thin. Counting only the strong + weak states, Bush leads 229 to 196, with 113 electoral votes in the tossup category Kerry's leads in the tossup states mean little to nothing. The turnout Tuesday will determine who wins."

http://www.electoral-vote6.com/oct/oct31.html

Well they are actually saying the same thing. The pro Kerry site seems to make more conclusions about the Toss-Up states.

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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2004, 09:51:12 AM »
It will be so evident that, by 10pm Pacific, the GOP will start eating themselves... causing white meat and dark meat factions to emerge and commence the GOP civil war. Just a guess. :)

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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2004, 10:04:05 AM »
No matter who wins, we all lose.:(

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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2004, 11:04:43 AM »
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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
We'll know the clear loser on November 2nd, either way...

American citizens.
 


We know that now.

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The only light I see at the end of the tunnel that hopefully McCain runs in '08.
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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2004, 11:20:34 AM »
If Bush wins, I bet Cheney will retire early because of health reasons and Giuliani will be his replacement to set him up for an 08 run.  McCain is too powerful to let run, the Republican party would never allow it.  He's too popular among the democrats which means that the republican party wouldn't be able to beholden him the way they can weaker candidates.
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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2004, 11:25:43 AM »
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If Bush wins, I bet Cheney will retire early because of health reasons and Giuliani will be his replacement to set him up for an 08 run.  McCain is too powerful to let run, the Republican party would never allow it.  He's too popular among the democrats which means that the republican party wouldn't be able to beholden him the way they can weaker candidates.


Who says he runs as a Republican? If the Dem's win tomorrow, they don't want McCain running either as he'll beat Kerry in a heartbeat. It may be that the only hope we have is a really great independant ticket. In fact, I'm pretty sure of it.

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« Reply #28 on: November 01, 2004, 11:29:53 AM »
mora... maybe we are saying the same thing but the "predictor" you point out absolutely depends on kerrie winning both michigan and florida.    If he loses either... he loses..   The predictor you show has kerrie winning those states.

most people feel that Bush will win one or both of florida and michigan.  

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« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2004, 11:36:55 AM »
Clear Winner : Bush.
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