Author Topic: Marines war criminals? (Read 7001 times)

NUKE · « **Reply #45 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:29:52 PM »

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Originally posted by ramzey
what is diference for you between terorist, bandit and freedom fighter?

What do you see as the difference? Maybe that's a better question.

newguy · « **Reply #46 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:49:56 PM »

You guys need to get some of that press out of there. This is rediculous. The CNN article mentions 'rules of war'. As far as I'm concerned, after fighting house to house for a day straight, most 'rules' are out the door. Dont assume to know what the situation was or what this marine had just been through.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #47 on:** November 15, 2004, 11:56:15 PM »

Mercy killing? Murder?
Where the hell you guys getting your news from, Al-Jazeera?

Way I hear it is there have been a bunch of incidents where Enemy combatants have been playing dead untill one of our guys get close, then come up shooting at our guys.
as well as booby trapped corpses.

What was he supposed to do? wait till the guy pulled a gun or a grenade to shoot him?
BFS
Had I been that soldier I would have done the exact same thing.

Like I said in the other thread.
If that guy didnt want to die he should have gotten out of town when he could.
Wasnt like it was a big secret we were goin in.

All this outrage over this. what people dont get is this type of thinig is the only thing these people understand.
We keep trying to beleive they think in the same way we do when what we are dealing with is an entire different mindset then we have in the west.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #48 on:** November 16, 2004, 12:00:00 AM »

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Originally posted by newguy
You guys need to get some of that press out of there. This is rediculous. The CNN article mentions 'rules of war'. As far as I'm concerned, after fighting house to house for a day straight, most 'rules' are out the door. Dont assume to know what the situation was or what this marine had just been through.

Saw a show covering that exact topic.

Rules of war are also you dont take civilians hostage.
you dont dress in civilian clothes.
You dont intentionally harm civilians. and more
you dont Dress in the enemies uniforms such as police uniforms (I beleive the rule is you can be shot on sight for that offence alone)

these guys break more rules of war as a norm then we ever have

NUKE · « **Reply #49 on:** November 16, 2004, 12:02:46 AM »

It's also not legal for a combatant to fake like they are dead IIRC.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #50 on:** November 16, 2004, 12:13:56 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Nope; do you think it's OK for Marines to commit warcrimes?

Dejavu... http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/iraqiwar.wmv

"Hell that was awesome; Let's do it again"

Itentional killing of civilians (Anyone got a link to that beheading video? Or how about some of those IEDs blowing up outside of hotels?)-- WAR CRIME

Kidnapping and Torturing of Civilians-- WAR CRIME

Torturing of Prisoners-- WAR CRIME

Killing of prisoners-- WAR CRIME

Dressing in enemy uniforms (such as police) WAR CRIME

Using Civilians for sheilds- WAR CRIME

Faking Death then shooting-- WAR CRIME

Faking Surrender-- WAR CRIME

Boobytrapping dead bodies --WAR CRIME

shall we go on?
Insurgents are guilty of all these things and much much more so lets not make like these guys are playing by the rules and we arent.

LLv34 Jarsci · « **Reply #51 on:** November 16, 2004, 12:21:40 AM »

And the ***** hit the fan....

Personally If I were put through all the stuff those soldiers have been , I would prolly do the same.

Its easier to defend your own country on your own soil than go abroad waging war... Theres no-one claiming justice for enemies when your own house is on fire.

Airhead · « **Reply #52 on:** November 16, 2004, 12:35:21 AM »

I would hate like hell to have a camera over my shoulder watching me at work. All the trips to the water cooler...stealing my co-workers' sandwiches out of the break room referigerator...surfing porn sites on the computer...

We need to get cameras out of the workplace, especially if your workplace is a war zone.

JoOwEn · « **Reply #53 on:** November 16, 2004, 12:38:17 AM »

it was a stray bullet. Off with their heads.

Wolfala · « **Reply #54 on:** November 16, 2004, 01:49:05 AM »

Ya know what, its war - **** happens. The guy was wounded and probally had it comming anyway - otherwise why would he be wounded to begin with?

Pongo · « **Reply #55 on:** November 16, 2004, 02:12:28 AM »

You guys see an american shoot an unarmed man in the head at point blank range and jump to conclusions!
The real victim here is the marine.

Wolfala · « **Reply #56 on:** November 16, 2004, 02:21:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
You guys see an american shoot an unarmed man in the head at point blank range and jump to conclusions!
The real victim here is the marine.

Amen Pongo.

ramzey · « **Reply #57 on:** November 16, 2004, 03:09:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Airhead
I would hate like hell to have a camera over my shoulder watching me at work. All the trips to the water cooler...stealing my co-workers' sandwiches out of the break room referigerator...surfing porn sites on the computer...

We need to get cameras out of the workplace, especially if your workplace is a war zone.

thats give me thought
how many incydents like that happend and was not recorded

ramzey · « **Reply #58 on:** November 16, 2004, 03:21:01 AM »

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Originally posted by newguy
You guys need to get some of that press out of there. This is rediculous. The CNN article mentions 'rules of war'. As far as I'm concerned, after fighting house to house for a day straight, most 'rules' are out the door. Dont assume to know what the situation was or what this marine had just been through.

arent this rules make us more civilised and democratic country on the world? If we broke them , put a side, suspend, how much they are worth? nothing. Its hit to core of everything what we belive, right??

Steve · « **Reply #59 on:** November 16, 2004, 03:24:52 AM »

The guy was a terrosit... Fugg him.