WWII French Helmets

[Hawklore]

[Gunslinger]

[straffo]

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ


RF = Republique Francaise

Almost good
With our fancy (and design ) characters it's more :

République Française

it's an infantery Adrian helmet.

[GRUNHERZ]

I know strafffo. But I'm not sure how to reproduce accented charcaters, not that I would bother trying even if I knew howconsidering the way I type.

[deSelys]

Hey Crumpp, Gunslinger and the like...a quick reminder:

Why were the U.S. so quiet when Germany invaded Poland? Which were the 2 only countries who stood against the Nazis? UK and France. France fought and lost, UK fought and held...thanks to the Channel.

With the exceptions of some brave men like the Eagle Squadron, the americans weren't much willing to fight 'for democracy'.

Before Pearl Harbour and Hitler declaring war against the U.S. (not the other way around mind you...), the U.S. have nothing to be proud of... you don't stand on solid ground to bash France actually.

Agreed you guys did a terrific job afterwards.

PS to the contrary the political stance of my country during this period is much 'bashable': we tried to avoid conflict by seeking neutrality, got invaded anyway and capitulated within 18 days, opening the gates to northern France to the German. If Belgium and the Netherlands had stood along France from the beginning, the Battle of France may very well have had a completely different outcome.

So if you can't refrain to bash...bash Belgium!

[straffo]

It's not problem you can't imagine how many Frenchs are too lazy to type those characters (even having the proper keyboard)

[Spooky]

Originally posted by deSelys
...bash Belgium!

I would, just to annoy Saw, but I just remembered the battle of Gembloux (Bataille de Gembloux) in the Cortil-Noirmont region (Belgium).

on the 14th,15th and 16th of may 1940, the Germans were pushed back by a combined Belgian/French brigade. it was the only allied victory during the 18 days German blitz on Belgium, and a costly one, about a thousand KIAs.

it is easy to say that France or Belgium rolled over, but thousands died where they stood against a superior enemy, so some of you may keep your "never used, dropped once rifle" BS remarks and reflect for a second on the sacrifice made by young men who gave everything while the rest of the world was waiting...

that same day, there were German merchant ships in US ports, and many Americans though that Hitler could bring order to what was already called the "old Europe".

[Saintaw]

My grandad was a truckdriver back then, he told me they were to drive around the front to deliver ammo. Only they had no ammo to deliver.

[BUG_EAF322]

Read some about it

some flee some where brave

they where astounded by the dynamic tactics the germans used it was a big shock  wich the conservative command simply ignored

they trusted to much on their magniot line.

[Crumpp]

Before Pearl Harbour and Hitler declaring war against the U.S. (not the other way around mind you...), the U.S. have nothing to be proud of... you don't stand on solid ground to bash France actually.

You might want to read up a little bit more on this.  Course who knows how they are teaching things in European History classes.  

Ever heard of the "Reuben James"?  

How about the "Flying Tigers"?  

Maybe "Lend Lease" rings a bell....

Although not officially in the war until Dec 7, 1941.  It is very much revisionist history to say the US was not in full support of the European Powers against Hitler.  We had citizens dying lending that support.

Why am I not surprised you know nothing about this.  

Crumpp

[straffo]

Flying tiger  in 1939 ?

Lend Lease in 1939 ?

Reuben James sunk in 1939 ?

[Crumpp]

1939 ?

Sorry You just did not last long enough for any help to reach you.  Even England had a hard time getting weapons, men, and material across the Channel to France.  

When the "Sitzkrieg" came on after Poland, the rest of the World assumed that it would be another round of European Appeasement of Hitler.  Some things were done but just as the European Powers moved without a sense of urgency so did the USA.

Read up on the fable of the little boy who cried "wolf!".  How many times was Hitler told, "That's it!  One more step and we are gonna fight?"  

How many times did he take the step and European Powers wrung their hands and wimpered?  Sudetenland, ALSACE-LORRAINE, and Czechoslovakia,  all fell under the guise of the European Powers going to stand up to Hitler.

Your using the same logic the Poles could use with you.  Where were you when it mattered??

Crumpp

[Saintaw]

Well, we were listening to Chamberlain... whutswrongwiththat?

[straffo]

Nothing like ending with a bit of name calling ?

FYI lend lease started in march 1941 after Pearl Harbour.

Yes we waited and made the Sitzkrieg ,and it was not appeasement ,it was due to the complete unpreparation/desorganisation of our army ,plus the  souvenir of WWI no one wanted to have again 900 french death per day.

Where were you when it mattered??

I was not here neither born.

My uncle was in Poland fighting ,he even escaped to continue the fight in France to end POW. My grand father was wounded and next POW the german that's a lot for a small familly like mine, and my familly was small because of WWI.
There was no American fighting with them.

You were not at war until 1941 stop negating that and post pseudo analysis of this period.

I don't negate the contribution of the US post 1941 ,but you have to understand that during 1939/1941 you were simply not present.

[deSelys]

LOL Crumpp you got your timeline mixed up somewhat. We're talking about 1939-1940.

Reuben James was sunk at the end of 1941, a couple of months before Pearl Harbour.

The lend lease act was passed in march 1941.

I didn't know that the Flying Tigers were fighting in Poland and France. Any source? (besides the Flying Tigers were disguised as soldiers of fortune especially to avoid U.S. involvement in the China-Japan war)

What were you saying about history classes?


If I agree that a lot of material help came from the U.S. during this period, some U.S. companies like Ford played a dubious game with the nazi Germany. IBM continued to sell/support the Hollerith machine (which helped to plan the industrial slaughter of the Jews) well beyond 1942.