Hey you LW aces who fly 109:)

[wobbel]

Hi guys

I love flying the 109G-10, but can you tell me the + - sides off the plane.

And also about the diffrent types of the 109 and 190  

Thx .


GA

[SpitLead]

Wobbel,

I'm not an expert by any means but this is what little I know of the ME109 series.

On the minus side:
It has very bad high speed handeling.  I augered in once due to controls locking up at high speed (400+ mph).  You need to be careful in a dive not to overspeed overwise there's no chance of recovery.  Faster diving airplanes can catch you if you're not careful (i.e. P-47 to name one)

The weapons loadout is a bit on the low side so you need to be a little careful to save your ammo and not "spray-n-pray".  

This is NOT a good Air-to-Ground attack airplane.  It has a radiator which is susceptible to pings and it doesn't carry that much in the way of ordinance.  Stick to F4Us with their Hispano cannons or P-47s for the ground attack role.  They can take the punishment, have super weapons loadouts and have no radiator to worry about.

On the PLUS side:
It has a terrific rate of climb.  Use it to your advantage in the vertical fight and for point defense of bases by bombers to get to altitude quickly.

It is quite fast.  Until the Tempest and maybe the 190D, the ME109G models were the fastest airplanes in the arena (according to the AH chart online), even faster than the P-51 and Typhoon at all altitudes.

Good armament punch.  When you add the gondola guns you're quite lethal.  This is a great airplane for bomber intercepts.

It is an OK turning airplane but there are better ones around.  A good pilot thought can make all the difference.

SpitLead OUT!

[Tac]

bail as soon as you see a P-38

[wobbel]

Thx SpitLead  

I wil have that in mind Tac


GA

[Dawvgrid]

My experience when you overspeed in a dive,
it helps to cut of the throttle,,,sometimes

[illo]

You can control 109 with trims when controls come too heavy. I guess it works in AH too.

P-38 is my favorite prey  

[DB603]

S!

 109 is pleasant to fly,behaves well in a fast dive(use manual trim to achieve this),has concentrated firepower(nose),turns pretty well at certain speeds and has of course the good climb.Bad sides are the quite vulnerable radiator,a bit obstructed 6oc view,average roll rate and small ammo capacity for cannons(get close before shooting ).
 And to Tac...Just bring it on   P38 is even poorer diver than 109G...Use this to extend from them.Also at lower speeds P38 rolls worse than 109,so use this too.At higher speed P38 rolls better.If You get he other engine of the P38-->he's ded.Most important is not to let the P38 jump You,quite hard to shake.
 Use of gondolas adds a punch but affects the maneuverability,especially in G-6.And also drops some MPH off the speed,but not so noticeable in the G-10.In comparison between diff models of 109's...109F-4 is the best turning one,even with gondolas.G-2 is still very maneuverable without them and outmaneuvers a G-6/G-10 with them.G-6 is best as "clean",but if only engaging bombers-->gondolas.G-10 is the climb/speed monster.Not the most agile,but Supongo seems to fly it like a F-4  Gondolas for bomber busting.
 20mm/30mm...Available for G-6/G-10.Good shooting skills needed for the 30mm,but 1-2 hits down a fighter for sure.20mm gives ammoload of 150rds and that is more than adequate,if You get closer than 250-300d.Also the ballistics of the 13mm(G-6/G-10) and 20mm are pretty close,so U can fire them simultaneously.The 7.9mm(F-4/G-2) are just annoying the enemy,if You don't hit the cockpit area.
 In overall the 109 needs a bit more practise to get used to than the more "easier" planes,but it is worth it.Stall is more mild than in the 190 in comparison.
 I hope thsi helped and enjoy flights in the Mercedes of the skies  




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[wobbel]

Thx guys

And big thx to DB603 for your time on this info


GA

[Eagler]

my choice is the 109f with 3/4 fuel, drop tank, 20mm with gondola's. This plane allows great range w/dt if needed and the punch of added cannon rounds with gondolas. It turns very well even with the gonds and doesn't compress as easily as the other 109g's. I use the x36 combo and have the trims programmed into the rotors on the throttle which helps control hi speed maneuvers. I'll grab a g10 or g6 only if I have to get real high real quick, otherwise it's the f.

Eagler

[DB603]

S!

 Got a point there Eagler.The 109F-4 is a good choice for pure dogfight.Also the 109G-2 is very close.The fuel+DT You mentioned is very usable.About the compression.I have dived 500mph+ without compression.The controls are "heavy",but plane is fully under control.I have flown the 109F-4 very little and not so familiar with it.Thanx for the info Eagler on F-4.And You are welcome Wobbel,NP at all.Fun to help a fellow sim enthusiast  


 

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[wobbel]

Thx Eagler

And thx again DB603


GA

[Tac]

I love the 109f4. I get 3+ kill sorties each time I go up in it. It can almost turn with a n1k (use low yoyo and that n1k is DEAD).

BTW, I think that if you in 109 and got p38 in your 6, best thing for you to do is a kickstop. The 38 will NEVER be able to bleed that much speed in such short time.. and will overshoot. WEP that g10 monster, p38 in trouble.

Of course, you may get your bellybutton shot up during the kickstop, but its something to keep in mind  

[DB603]

S!

 Good hint.Just make the Allied Iron to bleed speed and E.Then they are in trouble,since most of them(some excluded) don't shine in T&B at low speeds.But still I prefer to use more E-fighting in 109 than T&B.Ideal is to get a good bounce though  




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