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Offline Chairboy

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« on: December 13, 2004, 07:46:05 PM »
Reposted from rec.aviation.piloting:

Iwan Bogels   Dec 13, 2:40 pm  

On November 4, 1979, Iranian militants stormed the United States Embassy in
Tehran and took approximately seventy Americans captive. This terrorist act
lasted 444 days and during this period the US tried to think of several ways
to set the hostages free.


One revolutionary idea was to land a C-130 Hercules at a soccer field near
the hostage site and set the hostages free with military force. As a soccer
field in the middle of a city is virtually impossible to use as a landing
site, the USAF had to make drastic conversions to their aircraft in order to
even think of a chance of success.


The result was the "Credible Sport" project, in which four regular C-130H
aircraft were converted into YMC-130H specials with ESTOL (Extremely Short
Take Off and Landing) capabilities. In order to achieve the ultra short
landing and take-off, several rockets had to be installed to force the
aircraft to a quick stop and get it back airborne with a full load of people
within 300 feet. It was determined that 180,000 of thrust, equal to nearly
20 times the C-130's standard turboprop engines, would be required to get a
C-130 off in the length of a soccer field and over the surrounding
obstructions. The plane would be 300 feet in the air after traveling 300
feet forward and with a take off roll of just 100 feet.


Forward pointing rockets were installed to provide reverse thrust during
landing, as well as downward pointed rockets to cushon the landing. In order
to bring such a heavy aircraft to a quick stop, the amount of rocket power
was unprecedented. Needless to say that this aircraft had to be tested
before it could be used in action, and unfortunately the first test flight
did not go as planned.


See the test for yourself at http://www.dappa.nl/crash.htm
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« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2004, 07:51:16 PM »
why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?

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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2004, 07:52:43 PM »
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?


possibly the dumbest statement I have seen posted in awhile.

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« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2004, 07:52:55 PM »
I don't think colonization was part of the plan, Sparky.

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« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2004, 07:54:41 PM »
He just doesn't know his history.  Don't confuse stupidity with ignorance.

Well, here's HOPING it's just ignorance.
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« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2004, 08:02:58 PM »
I remember it well.....I was a freshman in HS when the helicopter resue attempt was made.

I remember being very pissed and sad that some of our guys died the way they did in the mission, but I was also happy that we had at finally done SOMETHING to try to get them out.

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« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2004, 08:04:05 PM »
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?


:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  

after "neutraliza the terrorists" they can take a bus back to US of A, right?

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« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2004, 02:52:40 PM »
I assumed they were held hostages in the embassy.
In which case, yeah they could have taken a bus to the airport, same way embassy personel normaly returns to the US.
I assume saving lives would outweigh losing a C130.

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« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2004, 03:04:09 PM »
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
why did it need to take off agian? weren't the US troops supposed to neutraliza the terrorists?


:rofl :rofl :rofl
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2004, 03:06:12 PM »
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
I assumed they were held hostages in the embassy.
In which case, yeah they could have taken a bus to the airport, same way embassy personel normaly returns to the US.
I assume saving lives would outweigh losing a C130.



Ignorance is Bliss.


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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2004, 03:11:47 PM »
I wasn't even born in 1979, so ya'all suck my oversized and full of white fluid balls

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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2004, 03:13:27 PM »
Wow, those C-130 test pilots earned their pay that month.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2004, 03:18:10 PM »
Some will fall in love with life and drink it from a fountain that is pouring like an avalanche coming down the mountain

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2004, 03:40:26 PM »
Ignorance is also unnecessary


....see what happens when you leave a window open and actually do work?  3-4 replies sneek-in  in front of you.  

Also, if you hadn't been born and had no idea what you were commenting on, then it was kinda stupid to have said anything, wasn't it?
« Last Edit: December 14, 2004, 03:43:27 PM by Furious »

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« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2004, 03:43:09 PM »
It will certainly make the study of History easier if you only have to learn it from the date of your birth.