Author Topic: Ban Teh Buttar Knive!! (Read 3876 times)

Stringer · « **on:** December 23, 2004, 10:43:44 AM »

One killed in London stabbing rampage
December 23, 2004

LONDON -- An armed man went on a stabbing rampage in north London Thursday, killing one person and critically injuring at least five others, police said.

Metropolitan Police said they began receiving reports of stabbings outside train stations and on streets in the Edmonton, Enfield and Harringay areas starting around 8:20 a.m.

A 29-year-old man, a 30-year-old woman, 40-year-old man and 30-year-old man were among those targeted by the man, who police believe was driving a car and pulling off the road to stab his victims.

One man died at Whipps Cross hospital in Leytonstone, and North Middlesex Hospital said it was treating five people for critical injuries.

Police arrested a male suspect in the area where the stabbings occurred.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #1 on:** December 23, 2004, 10:44:46 AM »

Get down! It's a drive by knifing!
-SW

Gunslinger · « **Reply #2 on:** December 23, 2004, 10:47:04 AM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Get down! It's a drive by knifing!
-SW

those can be dangerous.

You might spill your beer!

Jackal1 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:26:58 PM »

It`s quite evident more regulations are needed.

Customer : Waiter may I have some butter for my roll?
Waiter: Sir we will have to see your butter knife user permit before we are allowed to fill your request.

Toad · « **Reply #4 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:28:07 PM »

It's the sharp instruments, I tell ya. Not the person holding it.

lazs2 · « **Reply #5 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:33:12 PM »

toad has again been redeeemed in calling for a knife ban.. I believe also that my suggestion that only allowing knives in resteraunts would make sense in a country that has this problem. After all... what does a normal person need a knife for? no reason at all I say. sure... it is a little inconvienent to eat certain foods by picking them up and biteing off chunks but....

if it saved just one life!

Think of the children!

lazs

Toad · « **Reply #6 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:37:30 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
sure... it is a little inconvienent to eat certain foods by picking them up and biteing off chunks but....

if it saved just one life!

Think of the children!

lazs

Think of it as getting back to our "roots", tearing off a chunk of mammoth haunch with your teeth and bare hands. It's a valid, traditional and authentic way to eat.

Our long ago ancestors didn't need steel knives to feed themselves and neither do we.

I often think some people console their egos by owning several sharp shiny butter knives, table knives and even kitchen knives to make up for their dull, non-shiny short little....

lazs2 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 23, 2004, 02:40:23 PM »

If you can't cut your steak with a cricket paddle or nine iron then you need to simply give up steak.

how many more of these attacks do we need to be sujected to before the government steps in and protects us????

lazs

Tali · « **Reply #8 on:** December 23, 2004, 03:32:29 PM »

Yup, real laugh a minute stuff...wheee, someone died and 5 others injured, chuckle chuckle. The amazing thing is that anyone actually picked that story up over there.

Toad · « **Reply #9 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:06:46 PM »

No one is laughing at the loss of life or the sorrow caused by the nut-case perpetrator. Murder is murder, wherever and however it's done.

However, if you've been around this board longer than a month or so and you've followed the various gun control debates one would see there are some positons that have been supported and some that have been undermined by this incident. I think it's normal that there would be some "ribbing" about that.

You see recent incidents support the case that's been made that it's the person not the inanimate object. There's also support for the idea that if you ban one inanimate object, criminals will simply use a different inanimate object.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1271498.htm

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The attack was the second fatal stabbing in two days in north London.

On Wednesday a shop keeper was knifed to death in Wood Green after he chased two thieves who stole two bottles of spirits from his shop.

Knife crime is rising sharply across the country, prompting the Government to consider new laws raising the minimum age of knife ownership and extending the range of banned weapons.

Last year 272 people were knifed to death nationwide, an increase of 35 per cent in five years, while at the same time 80 people were shot dead.

You see these things were predicted in numerous gun control threads. Now those predictions are being validated. There's inevitably going to be some good natured commentary.

I can see where some might confuse that for laughing about the incident itself, which I certainly am not. But I tend to believe it's only a newer person to this BBS that would actually believe that is what is going on in this thread.

medicboy · « **Reply #10 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:11:13 PM »

My theory is that most people will turn to knives, hammers, and other "tools" if guns are banned, but a few will turn to making bombs in their kitchen. If some one really wants to kill some one else, they will always find a way.

rpm · « **Reply #11 on:** December 23, 2004, 04:56:19 PM »

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Originally posted by medicboy
My theory is that most people will turn to knives, hammers, and other "tools" if guns are banned, but a few will turn to making bombs in their kitchen. If some one really wants to kill some one else, they will always find a way.

I think you nailed it Medic.

Nashwan · « **Reply #12 on:** December 23, 2004, 05:01:15 PM »

Toad, it seems to me positions certainly have been vindicated.

A nutter runs amok in London armed with a knife, and manages to kill 1 person.

How many would be dead if he'd had a
gun?

Don't spree killers usually manage better than that?

The 2 most famous in Britain were Michael Ryan in Hungerford (14 dead) and Thomas Hamilton (17 dead). Both had guns, not knives.

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You see recent incidents support the case that's been made that it's the person not the inanimate object. There's also support for the idea that if you ban one inanimate object, criminals will simply use a different inanimate object.

Would you say all inanimate objects are equally effective at killing?

Honestly, if you wanted to go out on the streets and kill as many people as possible, would you take a knife or a gun?

Armies certainly seem to have come to the conclusion that guns are more effective; when I see soldiers on the streets of Iraq, for example, they are invariably carrying rifles, not knives.

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My theory is that most people will turn to knives, hammers, and other "tools" if guns are banned, but a few will turn to making bombs in their kitchen. If some one really wants to kill some one else, they will always find a way.

Again, presupposes that either all ways are equally easy, or that making it more difficult to carry out murder will not result in less murders.

Pongo · « **Reply #13 on:** December 23, 2004, 05:27:17 PM »

"However, if you've been around this board longer than a month or so and you've followed the various gun control debates one would see there are some positons that have been supported and some that have been undermined by this incident. I think it's normal that there would be some "ribbing" about that.

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He would have killed dozens with a gun.

vorticon · « **Reply #14 on:** December 23, 2004, 05:36:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
"However, if you've been around this board longer than a month or so and you've followed the various gun control debates one would see there are some positons that have been supported and some that have been undermined by this incident. I think it's normal that there would be some "ribbing" about that.

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He would have killed dozens with a gun.

and if someone else had a gun, they coulda shot him before he got to many...since there certainly wasnt any chance that someone else could be hit.