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« Reply #105 on: January 15, 2005, 11:36:09 AM »
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Please point out where it says Member States cannot act unilaterally to defend themselves?

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The Organization and its Members, in pursuit of the Purposes stated in Article 1, shall act in accordance with the following Principles.

1. The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.

2. All Members, in order to ensure to a of them the rights and benefits resulting from membership, shall fulfil in good faith the obligations assumed by them in accordance with the present Charter.

3. All Members shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security, and justice, are not endangered.

4. All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations.

5. All Members shall give the United Nations every assistance in any action it takes in accordance with the present Charter, and shall refrain from giving assistance to any state against which the United Nations is taking preventive or enforcement action.

6. The Organization shall ensure that states which are not Members of the United Nations act in accordance with these Principles so far as may be necessary for the maintenance of international peace and security.

7. Nothing contained in the present Charter shall authorize the United Nations to intervene in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction of any state or shall require the Members to submit such matters to settlement under the present Charter; but this principle shall not prejudice the application of enforcement measures under Chapter VII.
 


Did Iraq declear war on USA, prior to the invasion? Selfdefence? I see, Iraqs Invasionfleet and bombers had attacked USA or had made threats to do so?

First thay have a hughe war with their neighbour, Iran, wich lasts to 1988, then theres the first Iraq war, then the sanctions after that.

To invade a country that cant possibly be expected to really make any resistance, is just like kicking a man that is already are laying on the ground. No matter what they say. Surely, your incompetent intellegence service didīnt know that.

Do you understand what a big *** Colin Powell made of himself, telling the UN, infront of the whole world lies, to justify this planed agression?

I dont give **** for liers. And that goverment is still in the rule of your country? They freaking lied to the whole world, do you think they would ever tell you the truth, the only ones that could remove them from power?

Oh, I forgot to to mention about 2/3 of the worlds oilreserve is within Iraq borders.

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« Reply #106 on: January 15, 2005, 11:37:13 AM »
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Only an ignorant fool would believe a single word that Saddam Hussein migh have spoken.  You have joined that club.  

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Lets not forget that DudeTheVant is also one of our most notable AH BBS whacky 911 internet conspiracy theory belivers and genera advocates.  So I'm not surprised that he also belives in Saddam's word and his good intentions. What a neat character he ism  arent you Kappa? :)

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« Reply #107 on: January 15, 2005, 11:39:28 AM »
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oh that would make you feel all better now wouldnt it?

get a grip bud.  i live here.  was raised here.  and i will continue to be critical of that which is stupid about my country.

it is my right.

what a stoopid thing to say.

really.


Hmm, I agree.

However if that was in response my post b4 I dont see how it applies. I just noted that this thread is a mess.  

May I suggest that in the future, you organize your thoughts in a more cohesive way...

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« Reply #108 on: January 15, 2005, 11:40:26 AM »
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how This Thread    was, is, and shall continue to be a total mess

I'm pretty sure this is what JB88 meant... :)


ah yes grun.  i was wondering when youd come in and start popping your mouth.  welcome aboard.
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« Reply #109 on: January 15, 2005, 11:41:08 AM »
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I know i know i know ... It were evil Mexican indians  .. right ?


better dont respond if im wrong again or i will a shame :D


I am so sorry, you where closer this time, but still wrong. I know how hard you tried. Please donīt be ashamed, cause the answer is so simple, that even GRUN would know it....

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« Reply #110 on: January 15, 2005, 11:43:34 AM »
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Hmm, I agree.

However if that was in response my post b4 I dont see how it applies. I just noted that this thread is a mess.  

May I suggest that in the future, you organize your thoughts in a more cohesive way...



you may suggest anything that youd like...but you might consider that you are missing its context.  which you are.  

it was really more of an event than a dissertation.

a performance peiece of sorts done real time.

funny.  i see you refuting people alot with your little whistle, but i dont recall you starting a post or making your own stand on anything since ive been here.

might be wrong though...until you come into my world i usually ignore you,
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« Reply #111 on: January 15, 2005, 11:48:22 AM »
So all this babbling of your is a performance art exhibit?

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« Reply #112 on: January 15, 2005, 11:49:48 AM »
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you may suggest anything that youd like...but you might consider that you are missing its context.  which you are.  

it was really more of an event than a dissertation.

a performance peiece of sorts done real time.

funny.  i see you refuting people alot with your little whistle, but i dont recall you starting a post or making your own stand on anything since ive been here.

might be wrong though...until you come into my world i usually ignore you,


wow.  i just noticed that you thought that was a response to your post previous.  no.  it wasnt.  but you do seem to think that it is alot.
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« Reply #113 on: January 15, 2005, 11:50:24 AM »
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
So all this babbling of your is a performance art exhibit?


what is yours?
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« Reply #114 on: January 15, 2005, 11:51:03 AM »
JB88...dont fall for the olīGRUN trick:To get this tread locked, because it has some inconveniant issues that he really cant comply with.

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« Reply #115 on: January 15, 2005, 11:52:34 AM »
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JB88...dont fall for the olīGRUN trick:To get this tread locked, because it has some inconveniant issues that he really cant comply with.


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« Reply #116 on: January 15, 2005, 11:55:32 AM »
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JB88...dont fall for the olīGRUN trick:To get this tread locked, because it has some inconveniant issues that he really cant comply with.


And we were getting along so well in that other thread...  :(

Hey maybe you and JB can get together and fantasize about taking away my US citizenship, him "legally" through his shadowy connected cousin and you in spirit through your inane remarks...

What a bunch o tards...

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« Reply #117 on: January 15, 2005, 11:58:39 AM »
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And we were getting along so well in that other thread...  :(

Hey maybe you and JB can get together and fantasize about taking away my US citizenship, him "legally" through his shadowy connected cousin and you in spirit through your inane remarks...

What a bunch o tards...



ya.  that helps.  keep up the good work bro.
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« Reply #118 on: January 15, 2005, 12:03:12 PM »
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And we were getting along so well in that other thread...  :(

Hey maybe you and JB can get together and fantasize about taking away my US citizenship, him "legally" through his shadowy connected cousin and you in spirit through your inane remarks...

What a bunch o tards...



Never doubted that you where a US citizen. But you will never be a American, sorry.

Just as thoose poor guys, serving the US Army with "greencards" they are not even counted as casulties.

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« Reply #119 on: January 15, 2005, 12:08:30 PM »
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Never doubted that you where a US citizen. But you will never be a American, sorry.

Just as thoose poor guys, serving the US Army with "greencards" they are not even counted as casulties.


i disagree with that wholeheartedly.

as far as i am concerned that should never be the attitude taken towards those who want to be here.

grun.  i was kidding about using my bro in law.  i apologize for that statement.  

it was out of line.
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