Author Topic: I'm going to write a book "The Iraq War For Dummies" (Read 2400 times)

Raider179 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2005, 08:26:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
He was operating under UN resolutions, just like GWB, and he could not have taken Saddam out in 1991 without causing a major war in the region.

major war by whom? You mean like the one we are in now? Or do you mean with other countries in the area? I believe the only reason he ever gave for not doing it is he didnt want to lose his muslim allies in the coalition.

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2005, 08:35:57 PM »

1. $225,000,000,000 in the first year alone.
2. That's nine ****ing zeros.
3. American boys and taxpayers should not be doing what Iraqi boys should be doing for themselves.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2005, 08:47:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
major war by whom? You mean like the one we are in now? Or do you mean with other countries in the area? I believe the only reason he ever gave for not doing it is he didnt want to lose his muslim allies in the coalition.

Ummmmmm YEA....with out muslim support in the region the coalition would have fallen apart... it was not the mission to dethrown Sadam.......it never was. Bush Sr was one leader of many countries involved in dessert shield/storm.

After the images of the "highway of death" hit the media many people all over the world were calling for a hault in hostilities because the mission was accomplished.

Raider179 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2005, 08:59:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Ummmmmm YEA....with out muslim support in the region the coalition would have fallen apart...

After the images of the "highway of death" hit the media many people all over the world were calling for a hault in hostilities because the mission was accomplished.

1st part is your speculation you have no idea what would have happened except the islamic countries would have gotten mad and stomped their feet,

the 2nd part is his mistake, he didn't lead he was led by public opinion.

Lizking · « **Reply #34 on:** January 20, 2005, 09:10:04 PM »

So when a President works with the UN, you say he is wrong, and when h doens't work with the UN, you say he is wrong. arguing with kids is like masturbating with a baseball glove. You get tired, but that is about it.

tapakeg · « **Reply #35 on:** January 20, 2005, 09:32:59 PM »

You were WAY too lenient on the facts that we kept trying to send weapons inspectors there to inspect only to be told.....no you can't look there.......don't look there either.....not there......you can look over here. over and over and over again. We were way too patient. A major cripe from idiots after 9-11 is why we were not prepared for something like this. Trust me there is a reason we have not been attacked since 9-11 and it is because of the great work our military, and commander in chief has done in Afghanistan and Iraq. YES IRAQ. We now live in a world where we have to protect our own borders by going outside of our own. I couldn't imagine if "we will find those responsible-------cruise missile attack--" Clinton were in charge during 9-11. The rules have changed, the gloves are off, and we are taking it to them for the good of our nation. And quit speaking for the soldiers, they volunteered to do exactly what it is they are doing and they are doing a great job of it. They took it to us on 9-11 and we will not back down, we are taking it to them, we will prevail and the world will be a better place with Sadam Hussein on trial and (has) Bin Laden running like a rat. We cannot HOPE for peace, sometimes we have to fight for it.

Tapakeg

SOB · « **Reply #36 on:** January 20, 2005, 09:36:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
So when a President works with the UN, you say he is wrong, and when h doens't work with the UN, you say he is wrong. arguing with kids is like masturbating with a baseball glove. You get tired, but that is about it.

Pfft, yer just not using the right lubrica...err, nevermind.

AWMac · « **Reply #37 on:** January 20, 2005, 09:42:49 PM »

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Originally posted by NUKE
If anyone wants in on my book, email me.....email is in my profile.

Email sent NUKE.

Raider179 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 20, 2005, 09:57:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Lizking
So when a President works with the UN, you say he is wrong, and when h doens't work with the UN, you say he is wrong. arguing with kids is like masturbating with a baseball glove. You get tired, but that is about it.

lol 1st 2 different presidents 2 different situations. and your right I think both bushes made mistakes handling Iraq.

as for your saying I think you showed who the child was.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #39 on:** January 20, 2005, 10:16:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Raider179
1st part is your speculation you have no idea what would have happened except the islamic countries would have gotten mad and stomped their feet,

the 2nd part is his mistake, he didn't lead he was led by public opinion.

1. mistake or opinion it does not matter. You have your forces in the arab side of the world its best not to piss them off.

2. Occupying Iraq and removing sadam WAS NOT THE MISSION SET BY THE UN!

3. It was not just public opnion it was world opinion. People did not want to see more death and destruction live on TV. They'd had enough, the MISSION WAS ACCOMPLISHED.

in addtion you have not even come close to explaining how this was Bush Sr.'s fault that the mission was as such. He was action in accordance with the UN adn coalition leaders. You want to blame somone blame the UN....they are the ones that set the mission as such.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #40 on:** January 20, 2005, 10:24:56 PM »

EagleEyes · « **Reply #41 on:** January 20, 2005, 10:58:17 PM »

All i can say on this subject is how fast people forget about WWII. Hitler Invaded many countries and the League of Nations just sat there did nothing until he invaded Poland. The entire world was at war for almost 2 years before the US entered the war. Americans believed that hitler and his nazi thugs were Europes problem. I bet that if Japan didnt attack Pearl Harbor, America might not have entered the war until Britian fell, and then Hitler turned his attention to the US. How do we know that Saddam wouldnt have invaded Kuwait again and declared war on Israel. It is very possible that we may have stopped another World War.

I do realize that things arent going as planned in Iraq as Bush or anybody else wanted, but has any war in history ever gone as planned, during or after?? Personally i dont think so. Just think for a second, hypothetically if Saddam had Nukes, he would most likely have given them to Bin Laden and then there would have been another Sept 11th, but on a much larger scale. If we would have known what would have happened on Sept 11th before it happened and planned to attack Afganistan, people would be flipping out just like they are now over Iraq. People all over the world dislike the US, but if Britian or France or Russia were the sole Super Power in the world, people would hate them too.

People now days have their heads up there butts so far that they dont want war at all, no matter what happened. I still remember being at home and watching the news when the US begain the air strikes on Afganistan and watching protesters in some countries saying the US didnt have a right to attack afghanistan even though thousands of Americans were killed within 2 hours. GOD BLESS THE US and GEORGE W. BUSH

Raider179 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 20, 2005, 11:03:14 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunslinger
1. mistake or opinion it does not matter. You have your forces in the arab side of the world its best not to piss them off.

2. Occupying Iraq and removing sadam WAS NOT THE MISSION SET BY THE UN!

3. It was not just public opnion it was world opinion. People did not want to see more death and destruction live on TV. They'd had enough, the MISSION WAS ACCOMPLISHED.

in addtion you have not even come close to explaining how this was Bush Sr.'s fault that the mission was as such. He was action in accordance with the UN adn coalition leaders. You want to blame somone blame the UN....they are the ones that set the mission as such.

1) nicely put

2) never said it was. Said it was a mistake for Bush Sr. to not have got him when we could have.

3) agreed

4) He is the CIC. He makes the final call. Not the U.N., Not the soldiers, Not the public/world. Dont think so? I think Georgie jr has shown otherwise. If the U.S. does something the U.N. says such as the 1st gulf war it is because it is in our best interest, not because we take orders form them.

Raider179 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 20, 2005, 11:06:36 PM »

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Originally posted by EagleEyes
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Just think for a second, hypothetically if Saddam had Nukes, he would most likely have given them to Bin Laden and then there would have been another Sept 11th, but on a much larger scale.

You should read up on Bin Laden and Saddam some more. They were opposites in the Muslim world.

Drunky · « **Reply #44 on:** January 20, 2005, 11:10:30 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
No, I just have way too much work to do anything more than pop in and make a sly remark or two.

Anyways, this is what? The 100th reprint of this discussion? I'll have to make a note to make a template of all my previous posts so I can simply copy & paste.

Is that that new thing called sarcasm? I must have missed that memo.