Author Topic: Wingtip vapor trails (Read 1989 times)

Lizking · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2005, 01:40:51 PM »

WWIIOL has them too and they do help a lot in a turnfight.

CMC Airboss · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2005, 01:49:49 PM »

Here's a shot that I got at NAS Oceana a few years ago. Capt. Dale "Snort" Snodgrass was at the controls of this Kalamazoo Air Zoo FG-1D Corsair.

http://www.printroom.com/ViewGalleryPhoto.asp?userid=cmcairboss&gallery_id=60208&image_id=2

MiG

Nuke33 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2005, 01:54:04 PM »

Fantastic.. Thanks MiG

Flyboy · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2005, 02:20:26 PM »

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Originally posted by slimm50
Il2-FBAEP has 'em. They're cool as chit.

you know... watermelon is not cool

Lizking · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2005, 02:33:10 PM »

It depend upon how long it has been laying on the trail, flyboy....

Red Tail 444 · « **Reply #20 on:** February 04, 2005, 01:06:47 PM »

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Originally posted by bunch
I remember now reading about 'ol Kondens Muller, but cant remember where...the zekes in Tora Tora Tora, those werent real zekes, were they? I've always assumed they were AT-6s

They were zekes, I'm pretty sure, but were replicas...in New Orleans in 2000 they had a reenactment of Pearl harbor, and a few of them were there

Nuke33 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 04, 2005, 01:40:55 PM »

I saw prolly the same thing at an airshow in Houston.. I believe there were some replicas and some modified t6's.. I cant remember 100% though

Gunslinger · « **Reply #22 on:** February 04, 2005, 01:43:58 PM »

how do they get them to be different colors (IE RED WHIT AND BLUE) at airshows?

CMC Airboss · « **Reply #23 on:** February 04, 2005, 01:47:24 PM »

Smoke generators with dye in the oil is used to produce colored smoke. Its essentially vaporizing (not burning) oil on a hot plate.

MiG

SaburoS · « **Reply #24 on:** February 04, 2005, 03:03:54 PM »

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Originally posted by slimm50
I think practically all flying zekes today are reproductions, made from AT-6s (I think). There may be 1 authentic Zeke, I'm not sure.

Last year's Plane's of Fame Airshow (Chino), they had two authentic Zekes. The one of them (air museum's own) even has the original Sakai engine.

Most planes at the airshow that were flying made relatively low level passes in front of the crowd. The Zekes stayed up so it was hard to get really good photos.

Nuke33 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 04, 2005, 03:21:23 PM »

Wow those are some pretty cool pics SaburoS... Ive actually got some good pictures of that same P-38 that is in the background of the first picture. I'd post them but I don't have anywhere to host.. I got the pictures several years back at the Alliance airshow in Ft. Worth TX..

SaburoS · « **Reply #26 on:** February 04, 2005, 03:30:24 PM »

Thanks, the P38 was flying closer. Made for better photos

Nuke33 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2005, 03:48:48 PM »

Fantastic Photos!

What a beautiful aircraft...

Got any of it giving off wingtip contrails? haha

Mak333 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 04, 2005, 04:13:58 PM »

If any of you are into the Joint Strike Fighter program (JSF) Its pretty damn cool. I watched a 2 hour video of the competition between Boeing and Lockheed Martin. Both of them produced unique designs. The military ofcourse had requirements for the two designs to meet. The purpose: to build an affordable aircraft that suited the Navy's, Marine's and Air Force's needs. Both models were done very nice.

Anyways, Lockheed ends up beating out Boeing in 2000 in the competition and will create the United State's military aircrafts for the next 40 years.

The aircraft Lockheed came up with was F-35. I found their design quite interesting. One of the requirements was to be able to hover and land vertically. Past aircraft like the Harrier used the engine exhaust to hover. Lockheed Martin used a seperate engine called a Lift Fan. This was powered by the driveshaft connected to the main engine. Anyways, it worked very well. So thats pretty neat.

The official JSF website is: http://www.jsf.mil

But yeah, I can't wait til they release the F-22 Raptor. Due out 2006, I believe.

SaburoS · « **Reply #29 on:** February 04, 2005, 04:21:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Nuke33
Fantastic Photos!

What a beautiful aircraft...

Got any of it giving off wingtip contrails? haha

I doubt we'd find any owner of a rare million dollar + plane willing to subject those kind of stresses to induce them.

Here's an extreme example when you combine relatively cool weather and high humidity (Miramar 2004)