Author Topic: Iraq: 25% votes in Bagdad (Read 609 times)

patrone · « **on:** February 03, 2005, 10:21:20 PM »

Iraq: 25% of votes counted in Bagdad:

Partial election results from Baghdad and five predominantly Shiite Iraqi provinces, showing the parties with the most votes. Figures for Iraq web 's remaining 12 provinces were not available Thursday:

_BAGHDAD: 25 percent of the vote counted.

1- United Iraqi Alliance 350,069.

2- The Iraqi List 140,364.

3- Independent National Elites and Cadres 11,352.

4- Kurdish Alliance List 9,732.

5- People's Union 7,179.

_NAJAF:45 percent of the vote counted.

1- United Iraqi Alliance 157,565.

2- The Iraqi List 29,292.

3- Islamic Work Organization in Iraq - Central Command 2,005.

4- Independent National Elites and Cadres 1,937.

5- Iraqi National Democratic Coalition 997.

_KARBALA: 45 percent of the vote counted.

1- United Iraqi Alliance 86,234.

2- The Iraqi List 26,466.

3- Islamic Work Organization in Iraq - Central Command 1,393.

4- Iraqis Party 1,127.

5- People's Union 770.

_QADISIYAH: 65 percent of the vote counted.

1- United Iraqi Alliance 177,086.

2- The Iraqi List 33,922.

3- Independent National Elites and Cadres 4,583.

4- Islamic Work Organization in Iraq - Central Command 2,932.

5- Iraqis Party 2,298.

_DHI QAR: 65 percent of the vote counted.

1- The United Iraqi Alliance 281,688.

2- The Iraqi List 39,304.

3- Independent National Elites and Cadres 5,470.

4- People's Union 3,448.

5- Islamic Work Organization in Iraq - Central Command 3,172.

_MUTHANNA: 70 percent of the vote counted.

1- United Iraqi Alliance 112,128

2- The Iraqi List 25,239.

3- Islamic Work Organization in Iraq - Central Command 1,057.

4- People's Union 816.

5- Iraqi National Democratic Coalition 563.

Linkit

Never claimed to be a geniuse in math, but from a fast look at the figures, 14 million?

babek- · « **Reply #1 on:** February 04, 2005, 02:52:15 AM »

Are these results reliable ?

The "United Iraqi Alliance" is the group of parties which follows the order of Grand-Ajatollah Sistani.

And according to these results they would have got most votes in Bagdad - a city where shiites are not so numerous than in other cities like Kerbala or Nadjaf.

That the United Iraqi Alliance is leading in shhite provinces is no surprise - the people there follow the order of the Grand Ajatollah and have voted how he liked.

And I miss also the "Iraqi National Accord" party of Allawi. Has his party changed the name shortly before the election?
Where is his party in the statistics ?

WhiteHawk · « **Reply #2 on:** February 04, 2005, 05:50:47 AM »

Relax..Whichever party supports the US oil interests are the ones who got the most votes.

babek- · « **Reply #3 on:** February 04, 2005, 06:25:14 AM »

Sure - but I still cant believe that the shiite parties of Sistani got the most votes in Baghdad - where more sunnites than shiites live.

Finrod · « **Reply #4 on:** February 04, 2005, 06:26:51 AM »

Remember the sunnis announced they would boycott the election.

oboe · « **Reply #5 on:** February 04, 2005, 06:27:59 AM »

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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Relax..Whichever party supports the US oil interests are the ones who got the most votes.

Yep, its a free election as long as the candidates we want win. And if they don't, well, I guess our troops will need to be there a little longer.

slimm50 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 04, 2005, 08:22:45 AM »

Such pessimism. My my:rolleyes:

Habu · « **Reply #7 on:** February 04, 2005, 08:39:59 AM »

Yep

Keep on slamming what is going on there until it becomes in to support it.

Makes you look sophisticated and cynical and cool you know.

Otto · « **Reply #8 on:** February 04, 2005, 09:09:19 AM »

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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Relax..Whichever party supports the US oil interests are the ones who got the most votes.

I sure hope so.....

Toad · « **Reply #9 on:** February 04, 2005, 09:11:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Habu
Yep

Keep on slamming what is going on there until it becomes in to support it.

Makes you look sophisticated and cynical and cool you know.

Well, they have to thow up a shirtscreen to cover their confusion while they think up the new reasons why Iraq eventually became a successful, prosperous, democratic country despite the evil US.

It's hard work, you know; gotta start early.

patrone · « **Reply #10 on:** February 04, 2005, 09:13:24 AM »

After a count of 1.6 million votes, United Iraqi Alliance have 1.1 million 72% so far.

6 District done, out of 16. 8 million votes in total.

lazs2 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 04, 2005, 09:57:02 AM »

"Originally posted by WhiteHawk
Relax..Whichever party supports the US oil interests are the ones who got the most votes."

well... that would be a good thing but by no means gurarenteed unless we get snipers on the grassy knolls near the voting booths or shoot down some airliners filled with opposition voters and claim that terrorists hijacked em and suicide crashed em....

I think whitehawk accidentaly put on a smaller headed friends tinfoil hat this morning....

lazs

Rasker · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2005, 08:23:51 AM »

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=721&e=1&u=/nm/20050205/wl_nm/iraq_alliance_dc

Iraq Shi'ite Bloc Says to Demand Prime Ministership

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By Mariam Karouny

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - The Shi'ite alliance expected to win a commanding victory in Iraq (news - web sites)'s election will insist one of its members is appointed the country's next prime minister, a senior official in the alliance said on Saturday.



"Shi'ites want the prime ministership, we are insisting on it and will not give it up," Deputy Foreign Minister Hamed al-Bayati told Reuters. Bayati is a senior official in the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI).

SCIRI is a key player in the United Iraqi Alliance, a group of mainly Islamist parties that won strong support from Iraq's 60 percent Shi'ite majority in last Sunday's elections. If the alliance demands the prime ministership, it will be a blow to Prime Minister Iyad Allawi who had hoped to be picked again as a compromise candidate.

"The United Iraqi Alliance list has some candidates. The names are not finally agreed on yet because they are still discussing the qualifications and conditions of the prime minister," Bayati said.

Among those under consideration are Deputy President Ibrahim Jaafari, leader of the Dawa party which is part of the alliance, as well as SCIRI official Adel Abdul Mahdi, who is finance minister, and Ahmad Chalabi.

Sources in the Alliance say Jaafari and Mahdi have a stronger chance of being named their prime ministerial candidate than Chalabi, who has fallen out of favor with Washington and has been involved in public rows with some Iraqi officials.

On Thursday, the main Kurdish bloc, expected to come second or third in the election, said it would demand that its candidate Jalal Talabani, head of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, should be either president or prime minister.

Bayati said the name of the president must be agreed between the three main ethnic and religious groups -- Shi'ites, Kurds and Sunni Arabs. If the Kurds got the presidency, a Sunni Arab could be named head of the new National Assembly, he said.

"The name of the president has to be agreed on between Shi'ites, Sunnis and Kurds, but if the Kurds want this post they have to please the Sunnis and agree with them on that," he said.

The elections will determine the composition of a 275- member National Assembly that must in turn agree on a president and two vice presidents. These officials must then agree on a prime minister and appoint a cabinet.

Bayati said talks were already being held to discuss ministerial posts in the new government.

[Poster's Note] I understand that a two thirds vote of the national assembly will be required to enact the new Constitution. No way that a purely Shiite bloc could do that without some Kurd or Shiite assent. And I don't see any significant Shiite support for following Iran's horrible example of a theocratic tyranny with an impotent democratic facade, nor for a triumphalist ethnic revenge on the Sunnis. Why choose a new dictator when you've just gotten rid of an old one? Why start a bloodbath when you have majority control of the government?

babek- · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2005, 08:57:07 AM »

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Originally posted by Rasker
[B[Poster's Note] I understand that a two thirds vote of the national assembly will be required to enact the new Constitution. No way that a purely Shiite bloc could do that without some Kurd or Shiite assent. And I don't see any significant Shiite support for following Iran's horrible example of a theocratic tyranny with an impotent democratic facade, nor for a triumphalist ethnic revenge on the Sunnis. Why choose a new dictator when you've just gotten rid of an old one? Why start a bloodbath when you have majority control of the government? [/B]

Just watch what happened:

The sunnite leaders demand from the sunnite minority to abstain from the election - and obviously many of them havent voted.

On the other hand the leader of the iraqui shiites, the (iranian) Grand-Ajatollah Sistani had proclaimed that it was a religious duty of all iraqui shiites to go to the elections. And so most of the shiites - already the majority of the iraqis voted.

So the result could be that this majority-effect of the shiites will be even bigger because many sunnites didnt voted.

And most of the shiites of Iraq will follow each order, Sistani gives to them. He is highly respected and admired - especially after he saved the holy shiites shrines during the Sadr-crisis.

If the shiites get more than 2/3 of the votes - then the real problems will start.